Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (16 Viewers)

[GordoDeCentral]

How would I avoid doing that then?

id say get yourself out of the standard arguments, use your own eyes and experiences, this for example, our ability to communicate yet so far away is a technological marvel, but caring for each other despite never having met refers to something special within us something that cant be explained with syllogisms

 

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[AndreaCristiano]

id say get yourself out of the standard arguments, use your own eyes and experiences, this for example, our ability to communicate yet so far away is a technological marvel, but caring for each other despite never having met refers to something special within us something that cant be explained with syllogisms

Very very intuitive point! That never even dawned on me.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

id say get yourself out of the standard arguments, use your own eyes and experiences, this for example, our ability to communicate yet so far away is a technological marvel, but caring for each other despite never having met refers to something special within us something that cant be explained with syllogisms

Awww, you care for Sheik

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

id say get yourself out of the standard arguments, use your own eyes and experiences, this for example, our ability to communicate yet so far away is a technological marvel, but caring for each other despite never having met refers to something special within us something that cant be explained with syllogisms

The thing I wanna do is learn the standard arguments and understand the holes or flaws in them, then alter them to be a better argument. Everyone needs a starting point. I chose the existing arguments. Keep in mind that I'm very new to this.

And non-sense! That special something is Juventus.

Awww, you care for Sheik

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

All believers just give me a fucking answer why there are no words about dinosaurs in bible/quran? WHY? And how come that god created all just in only 7 days? Earth age Is around 4.5 billion years so why god only showed up only 2000 years ago ? Where the hell he have been for another 4.5 billion years? Why he showed up in Jewish land according to bible, why it was not south America or Japan island or Russian territory ? And why his special son was Jewish? And why Mohammed was Arab? It was ur gods wish or what? Or they are caring only about Arabs or Jewish people cause they are special human race's?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

All believers just give me a $#@!ing answer why there are no words about dinosaurs in bible/quran? WHY? And how come that god created all just in only 7 days? Earth age Is around 4.5 billion years so why god only showed up only 2000 years ago ? Where the hell he have been for another 4.5 billion years? Why he showed up in Jewish land according to bible, why it was not south America or Japan island or Russian territory ? And why his special son was Jewish? And why Mohammed was Arab? It was ur gods wish or what? Or they are caring only about Arabs or Jewish people cause they are special human race's?

All of your above sentiments are faulty and horrible arguments because your coming from an errant place.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

All of your above sentiments are faulty and horrible arguments because your coming from an errant place.

I was waiting for something like this , since you are out of arguments it's better to attack ur opponent , so like any other believers you have no answers on my questions , simple question who do you believe in - Allah or somebody else?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

All believers just give me a fucking answer why there are no words about dinosaurs in bible/quran? WHY? And how come that god created all just in only 7 days? Earth age Is around 4.5 billion years so why god only showed up only 2000 years ago ? Where the hell he have been for another 4.5 billion years? Why he showed up in Jewish land according to bible, why it was not south America or Japan island or Russian territory ? And why his special son was Jewish? And why Mohammed was Arab? It was ur gods wish or what? Or they are caring only about Arabs or Jewish people cause they are special human race's?

I'll try and answer that one: because humans hadn't invented written language till then. How are they supposed to record gods word if they don't have a language to write in?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

I'll try and answer that one: because humans hadn't invented written language till then. How are they supposed to record gods word if they don't have a language to write in?

Did u read bible?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Did u read bible?

Some of it, yeah.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Some of it, yeah.

So according to bible since babylon tower times people are talking on different languages and they could write too

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I was waiting for something like this , since you are out of arguments it's better to attack ur opponent , so like any other believers you have no answers on my questions , simple question who do you believe in - Allah or somebody else?

Saying that your points start from fallacies isn't attacking you man. Grow some balls. Your points mean nothing your questions come from mistaken understanding. The answers for many of those will be to long to write.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Saying that your points start from fallacies isn't attacking you man. Grow some balls. Your points mean nothing your questions come from mistaken understanding. The answers for many of those will be to long to write.

Blablsbla typical answers from believers who have no answers, so you re telling me that all mighty god had created black holes, milky way and galaxies?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

So according to bible since babylon tower times people are talking on different languages and they could write too

Yeah. So?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Ps "Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. He is chief of the ways of God."

And then there is Malachi 1:3, Jeremiah 14:6 and Isaiah 27:1 to name a few on dragons/ dinosaurs

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Blablsbla typical answers from believers who have no answers, so you re telling me that all mighty god had created black holes, milky way and galaxies?

There are answers I just dropped it now on you. The problem is I don't have all day or enough energy to write complete answers to educate you

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Yeah. So?

So they had written skills about more more than 2000 years ago but god showed up only after his /son/ was born? Why it takes billion years tO introduce his /son/ ?!

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Ps "Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. He is chief of the ways of God."

And then there is Malachi 1:3, Jeremiah 14:6 and Isaiah 27:1 to name a few on dragons/ dinosaurs

WaIt a minute are you telling me that dragons existed??

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

So they had written skills about more more than 2000 years ago but god showed up only after his /son/ was born? Why it takes billion years tO introduce his /son/ ?!

Fucked if I know! Apparently he works in mysterious ways.

 

[JuveJay]

It's extremely unlikely the people who wrote the Bible didn't know about dinosaurs, or at least that bones of huge animals existed. For example the Ancient Greeks excavated dinosaur bones regularly, dinosaur-like animals even appear on some of their stoneware.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

So they had written skills about more more than 2000 years ago but god showed up only after his /son/ was born? Why it takes billion years tO introduce his /son/ ?!

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WaIt a minute are you telling me that dragons existed??

The word dinosaur wasn't coined until the 20th century they were called behemoth and dragons before. What I'm telling you is that you do not have the knowledge of linguistics nor scripture to make an educated decision. Yet you do not try to discover these things you just spout your ignorance