Diego Ribas da Cunha (54 Viewers)

[X Æ A-12]

Maybe it is 15 million + barzagli.

I would rather have the 15mil

I have to say, another ugly trend on the forum is starting to rear its ugly head again. Slowly but surely, folks are starting to accept that Diego is a goner. And just like they did with Criscito and Giovinco, now Diego will be the target of silly criticisms to relieve the disapproval of losing the player. He won't be a target of accusations of treason like Criscito, but I am willing to gamble that he will suffer the same fate as Giovinco with posters getting all giddy over the replacement, a la Lanzafame. Mind you, Lanza was barely mentioned on this forum before this summer. Now he's better than Giovinco.

This is the typical tribal mentality. Sustain a big loss, either 1) find a scapegoat or 2) brainwash yourself into thinking it's not a loss at all based on faux hopes, faith or other (per)versions of subjectivity.

Folks need to realize that the club can certainly do itself wrong and you're not any more or less of a fan for criticizing it.

Fuck anybody who criticizes Diego over this. Despite him being on excellent form the board keeps trying to sell him even though he has said he wants to stay. He's been working hard all pre season and they treat him like a pawn, declaring he is staying and trying to force him out a week later.

I would understand if he wants to run from this club and never look back.

 

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Diego is the best player Juve has had in years

Zidane failed first year

Nedved failed first year

Why would anyone sell Diego

WHY WHY WHY!

Oh well - I just hope Juve can start winning again somehow... hope against hope...

 

[Paolo Rossi]

Are you familiar with the Boston Bruins ownership/management? Trust me, I understand what you're saying, I just completely disagree man.

Not really, but they cant be worse than the Leafs lol.

 

[MikeM]

I'm going to try my best not to blow my stack on this post.

Too many what ifs, not enough facts. Even if Marotta had a better player than Diego in mind for next season, why wouldn't he keep said player for this season? Why sell him now at a loss after only one season in which the whole side was disastrous? Wouldn't you say a player like Diego who has shown value in the past should be given another chance, especially when he has apparently worked his ass off this preseason, admitted through Del Neri's own words? Even if you disagree with giving players second chances, selling a player now to make way for a replacement 365 days in advance is sheer stupidity. So that part of your post makes zero sense, but you might be thinking like Marotta here.

Diego played in the 4-3-1-2 and did fine in the 4-2-3-1 before Ferrara foolishly reverted back to the diamond midfield. The 4-2-3-1 and the 4-4-1-1 are practically the same system, so I have absolutely NO clue how you can say he succeeds at one but fails at the other. The only real difference in the system is that perhaps the wingers fall back a bit more. Mind explaining that one to us? How would Diego be class in the 4-2-3-1 but fail at the 4-4-1-1?

And why can't we purchase a good SS with Diego in the team? If someone better does come along, who says Diego needs to start no matter what? There isn't some stipulation in Diego's contract that he must start no matter what, so where do you get this from? Do you mean Diego's salary or transfer fee is keeping us from buying another player? Is it another Poulsen case? I just don't see any sense in this. Even if we do have sights on a better player, Diego could still be a great backup.

Lets be honest here. Diego is being sold for only one logical reason, and that is he doesn't fit Del Neri's straight 4-4-2 system. He isn't exactly like a Cassano or Di Natale in that he is not a real SS who scores tons of goals, but rather is a trequarista behind two strikers. So what we have here is a case of the managers having their heart set on a particular formation no matter what players they have on their roster. And this is the problem with stubborn, mediocre managers like DN.

But even if you love Del Neri and his system, one has to have sympathy for Diego, a player who takes the majority of the blame for a poor season with huge expectations and an incredibly poor team. I wish him luck wherever he goes.

4-2-3-1 and 4-4-1-1 are different. In one he'll have wingers directly in his disposal (ahead of him) and the other he is playing infront of them and being asked to support a striker. They are different IMO. His best is 4-2-3-1 and he's ok in the 4-4-1-1 but I don't know if he can do it regularly against top clubs. It's unfair for me to say that now but it's my opinion.

If we sign Aguero somehow with the grace of god you'd rather Diego play on the bench than us outright sell him and use the money and wages somewhere else? Really?

I don't love DN or his system and I don't hate Diego. I like Diego. I would love Diego in a team where he wasn't the best player or even the best attacking player. And that's my point. I simply don't believe we can win anything with Diego playing such an important and central role in our team, unless of course, his supporting cast is phenomenal.

It's like any other sport. You need stars in important positions. For example, I'd rather have Aguero and Molinaro than Diego and someone like Tremoulinas or any other above average LB. Because Aguero would play a more important position and would be relied upon more. I want my best players there. I want the best players I can find there.

I feel bad for Diego because he's a good player but he's not a star and too much was expected of him. Unfortunately, I don't know what's more unlikely, us finding a superstar to put in an important position or finding a way to build a phenomenal team around Diego.

 

[chester]

I have to say, another ugly trend on the forum is starting to rear its ugly head again. Slowly but surely, folks are starting to accept that Diego is a goner. And just like they did with Criscito and Giovinco, now Diego will be the target of silly criticisms to relieve the disapproval of losing the player. He won't be a target of accusations of treason like Criscito, but I am willing to gamble that he will suffer the same fate as Giovinco with posters getting all giddy over the replacement, a la Lanzafame. Mind you, Lanza was barely mentioned on this forum before this summer. Now he's better than Giovinco.

This is the typical tribal mentality. Sustain a big loss, either 1) find a scapegoat or 2) brainwash yourself into thinking it's not a loss at all based on faux hopes, faith or other (per)versions of subjectivity.

Folks need to realize that the club can certainly do itself wrong and you're not any more or less of a fan for criticizing it.

I think it more is about people expressing their hopes (f.e. they hope Lanza is better then Giovinco) since Gio isn't here anymore and since it seems Lanza will be getting some decent playing time.

 

[chester]

I would rather have the 15mil

As backup for Chiellini and Bonucci, I wouldn't mind having him.
Also, I can't believe Marotta is selling Diego for only 15 million without something extra.
Looking at the deals he has done so far, the majority of the deals (ok, we have to wait how Martinez and Bonucci turn out to be), seemed ok deals, I don't believe he will sell Diego so cheap, but hey time wil tell.

 

[Rollie]

Exactly...it's like if your kid does something wrong and you don't punish him. If you do that, it means you are a bad parent and if you dont criticize your team when they fk up, you;re a bad fan.

Criticizing is one thing, support is another. I criticize all of my team regularly, and I try to stay balanced while doing it.

You criticize your kids when they do something wrong, but you still show love and support em. Not the same as what we were talking about, IMO.

 

[X Æ A-12]

As backup for Chiellini and Bonucci, I wouldn't mind having him.
Also, I can't believe Marotta is selling Diego for only 15 million without something extra.
Looking at the deals he has done so far, the majority of the deals (ok, we have to wait how Martinez and Bonucci turn out to be), seemed ok deals, I don't believe he will sell Diego so cheap, but hey time wil tell.

I don't rate Barzagli at all. I would take him over Khaladze but if the rumors about Burdisso are true we should just get him.

So what if he is a merda, having three competent CBs (and Lego who is ok) is a luxury we haven't had since Calciopoli.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Absolutely torrid times, these are. Never have I felt as bad as this. Maybe not even when we got relegated!

 

[attila_huno]

Di natale and Aquilani is not even fuckin close to the "GIFT" we expected....especially for toto. Right now for me personally..letting diego stay will i considered as that GIFT

I would consider it Birthday and Christmas combined:xmas:

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

 

[ReBeL]

I have to say, another ugly trend on the forum is starting to rear its ugly head again. Slowly but surely, folks are starting to accept that Diego is a goner. And just like they did with Criscito and Giovinco, now Diego will be the target of silly criticisms to relieve the disapproval of losing the player. He won't be a target of accusations of treason like Criscito, but I am willing to gamble that he will suffer the same fate as Giovinco with posters getting all giddy over the replacement, a la Lanzafame. Mind you, Lanza was barely mentioned on this forum before this summer. Now he's better than Giovinco.

This is the typical tribal mentality. Sustain a big loss, either 1) find a scapegoat or 2) brainwash yourself into thinking it's not a loss at all based on faux hopes, faith or other (per)versions of subjectivity.

Folks need to realize that the club can certainly do itself wrong and you're not any more or less of a fan for criticizing it.

Top post. People here think that juve managers are inspired angels that do nothing wrong at all. And the accusations of being a fake fan is already available for anybody who opposes their blind "loyalty".

 

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[David01]

I think it is safe to say we all believe losing Diego is a mistake but some of us do have the hope we will use that money to improve our team. Even with Diego we obviously lack something so let's hope they will sign a number of players to erase that void.
I'm a Juve fan not a Diego one. No matter how much I like Diego, he still is only a player who happens to play for my fav team.
when reading all this bs, ' if we sell him I'll never support Juve again', makes me think of one thing, 'fake fan'
sure our board has made mistakes and will do it again, they are humans but that doesn't stop me from supporting Juve
I believe that ultimately the choice is Diego's, he can accept Wolfie's offer or stay with us
you can blame Marotta all you want but their really isn't a lot he can do if Diego wants to go to Germany

 

[Seven]

If Diego's sold I'm sure we're getting something better than Di Natale though. It would be outrageous.

 

[Nicholas]

Di Natale is staying in Udine.

 

[alex_bianconero]

Diego is in Germany for his medical according to Bild.

 

[bianconero]

If Diego does leave, then we will never really know what might have been. He has certainly shown flashes of brilliance among the many average performances, and let's be truthful here, bad ones. Therein lies the sadness behind his departure (he also seems to be a decent chap).

Whether or not the transfer will be deemed a success- providing it does take place- will depend on the next following 2 transfers.

 

[Jasp]

Whats the most likely scenario? Martinez as SS, and in comes a guy like Elia?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Diego is in Germany for his medical according to Bild.

I feel truly heartbroken now!