"Di Canio banned for second salute" (9 Viewers)
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Good post, Holygr4le...
This is undoubtedly tied in with some of your items below (safety, arenas), ticket pricing for the local market, etc.
Though not entirely Serie A, however. I can recall how much Japanese and Korean establishments prepared for English soccer fans during WC 2002 as if General Montgomery's tanks were heading into town.
Yeah, this one is a classic. Vinman and I stopped counting how often we heard people cough into open mics. Not to mention the dead air for long periods, and only occasionally do they seem to offer something so sophisticated on their broadcasts like a game clock and scoreboard.
Part of this, IMO, probably has to do with city-owned stadiums. Compare with the EPL where there is the concept of team ownership of the facilities. And when you build stadiums with city ownership, inevitably they get built to hold down maintenance costs. So ultimately they look ugly and bare. But the upside? You save a few bucks because all you have to do is hire some minimum wage guy to hose the place down as a means of sprucing up the place.
It's no wonder the Champions League final would never venture down into the peninsula in this state.
Barring club ownership of facilities, however, perhaps some hopes can be pinned on Italy's Euro 2012 bid. If it could do what Euro 2004 did for Portugal, there's definitely something to be salvaged.
This is undoubtedly tied in with some of your items below (safety, arenas), ticket pricing for the local market, etc.
Though not entirely Serie A, however. I can recall how much Japanese and Korean establishments prepared for English soccer fans during WC 2002 as if General Montgomery's tanks were heading into town.
Yeah, this one is a classic. Vinman and I stopped counting how often we heard people cough into open mics. Not to mention the dead air for long periods, and only occasionally do they seem to offer something so sophisticated on their broadcasts like a game clock and scoreboard.Part of this, IMO, probably has to do with city-owned stadiums. Compare with the EPL where there is the concept of team ownership of the facilities. And when you build stadiums with city ownership, inevitably they get built to hold down maintenance costs. So ultimately they look ugly and bare. But the upside? You save a few bucks because all you have to do is hire some minimum wage guy to hose the place down as a means of sprucing up the place.
It's no wonder the Champions League final would never venture down into the peninsula in this state.
Barring club ownership of facilities, however, perhaps some hopes can be pinned on Italy's Euro 2012 bid. If it could do what Euro 2004 did for Portugal, there's definitely something to be salvaged.
swag said:
Good post, Holygr4le...
This is undoubtedly tied in with some of your items below (safety, arenas), ticket pricing for the local market, etc.
Though not entirely Serie A, however. I can recall how much Japanese and Korean establishments prepared for English soccer fans during WC 2002 as if General Montgomery's tanks were heading into town.
Yeah, this one is a classic. Vinman and I stopped counting how often we heard people cough into open mics. Not to mention the dead air for long periods, and only occasionally do they seem to offer something so sophisticated on their broadcasts like a game clock and scoreboard.
Part of this, IMO, probably has to do with city-owned stadiums. Compare with the EPL where there is the concept of team ownership of the facilities. And when you build stadiums with city ownership, inevitably they get built to hold down maintenance costs. So ultimately they look ugly and bare. But the upside? You save a few bucks because all you have to do is hire some minimum wage guy to hose the place down as a means of sprucing up the place.
It's no wonder the Champions League final would never venture down into the peninsula in this state.
Barring club ownership of facilities, however, perhaps some hopes can be pinned on Italy's Euro 2012 bid. If it could do what Euro 2004 did for Portugal, there's definitely something to be salvaged.
This is undoubtedly tied in with some of your items below (safety, arenas), ticket pricing for the local market, etc.
Though not entirely Serie A, however. I can recall how much Japanese and Korean establishments prepared for English soccer fans during WC 2002 as if General Montgomery's tanks were heading into town.
Yeah, this one is a classic. Vinman and I stopped counting how often we heard people cough into open mics. Not to mention the dead air for long periods, and only occasionally do they seem to offer something so sophisticated on their broadcasts like a game clock and scoreboard.Part of this, IMO, probably has to do with city-owned stadiums. Compare with the EPL where there is the concept of team ownership of the facilities. And when you build stadiums with city ownership, inevitably they get built to hold down maintenance costs. So ultimately they look ugly and bare. But the upside? You save a few bucks because all you have to do is hire some minimum wage guy to hose the place down as a means of sprucing up the place.
It's no wonder the Champions League final would never venture down into the peninsula in this state.
Barring club ownership of facilities, however, perhaps some hopes can be pinned on Italy's Euro 2012 bid. If it could do what Euro 2004 did for Portugal, there's definitely something to be salvaged.
What does freedom of speech have to do with football? Football stadiums is not a place to speak out your political views. We want to forget our differences in politics, religion, sexuality and such and focus on what's happening on the field. Racism, facism and all it's peers also hurts the image of football. People that do not respect those views will avoid the sport and that is not good for the sport. We want football to be a place for joy and were everyone unites, unconditioned. If we give facists more room to express their views on the pitch and outside connected to the sport sponsors will avoid and even worse, the purpose of football will get lost.
To a degree yes, But if you're to blame the club, how far do you go ?
Are the club responsible for their fans?
if you are then gonna sanction / ban the club for the behaviour of its players / fans... to be frank, Serie A is fucked...
There is not one club in italy where you wont see sections of its crowd using the "roman" salute or the closed fist salute at every single match.. And yes that includes Juventus...
This isnt jus an issue for the italian federation its much more, Its about the cultural position of the italian people as a whole... This runs much deeper than football players or fans, It is embedded in italian society at every level...
Are the club responsible for their fans?
if you are then gonna sanction / ban the club for the behaviour of its players / fans... to be frank, Serie A is fucked...
There is not one club in italy where you wont see sections of its crowd using the "roman" salute or the closed fist salute at every single match.. And yes that includes Juventus...
This isnt jus an issue for the italian federation its much more, Its about the cultural position of the italian people as a whole... This runs much deeper than football players or fans, It is embedded in italian society at every level...
swag said:
Yeah, this one is a classic. Vinman and I stopped counting how often we heard people cough into open mics. Not to mention the dead air for long periods, and only occasionally do they seem to offer something so sophisticated on their broadcasts like a game clock and scoreboard..
The only darkness in Sky italia's feature coverage is beyond their control in that of badly designed stadiums from a media viewpoint...
Yet it is made so not only by fans / players but by the authorities with the likes of the anti-racism campaigns... You cannot have it both ways...
If the federations / bodies push cultural / political views in these campaigns then players / fans should also have the opportunity to use this stage... whether their views are right or wrong
If the federations / bodies push cultural / political views in these campaigns then players / fans should also have the opportunity to use this stage... whether their views are right or wrong
I'm no expert on Italian politics, so could someone who knows more about the subject please explains his views ??
I kinda find it hard to accept the fact that Paolo is a racist, because he has guys like Dabo and Liverani on his team...and has also played with other non-white players at West Ham, Charlton, etc...
as far as I know, he has been a leader at all of his past teams
I kinda find it hard to accept the fact that Paolo is a racist, because he has guys like Dabo and Liverani on his team...and has also played with other non-white players at West Ham, Charlton, etc...
as far as I know, he has been a leader at all of his past teams