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    Bijelo-crvena polja hrvatska na dresu sjete me da ja volim te!!
    Igrajte za nju, Našu voljenu, nek’ jače kuca to srce vatreno!!!

    ajmo hrvatska! nasa hrvatska!!

    i'm loving this!!!!!!! catch you tommorow guys, FORZA HRVATSKA!! :D
     

    JCK

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    JCK
    May 11, 2004
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    :rofl2:

    This game is funny.

    Ashley Cole and John Terry were just perfect then all of a sudden Gary Neville and David Robinson outclassed them :D
     

    JCK

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    JCK
    May 11, 2004
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    sateeh said:
    :rofl2: exactly....i just cant believe they hired "Big Mac"

    big congrats to Vlats boys there
    It doesn't really matter who coaches England, you would see the same results over and over and over again. It is not in the coach, it is in the mentality. The mentality of all the players, the fans and anyone responsible for this team.

    And congrats for Vlatko.
     

    sateeh

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    Jul 28, 2003
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    Jeeks said:
    It doesn't really matter who coaches England, you would see the same results over and over and over again. It is not in the coach, it is in the mentality. The mentality of all the players, the fans and anyone responsible for this team.

    And congrats for Vlatko.
    exactly that mentality is just....weird.

    but still with a half decent coach they would've had a chance or at least had good results against teams like Macedonia(no disrespect).....but "big mac" is just a joke :D

    anyway, good on Robert Kovac.He said Rooney wont score and he didnt :tup:
     

    Il Re

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    Jeeks said:
    It doesn't really matter who coaches England, you would see the same results over and over and over again. It is not in the coach, it is in the mentality. The mentality of all the players, the fans and anyone responsible for this team.

    And congrats for Vlatko.
    spot on Jack

    they need to wake up and realise they arn't as good as they think they are, as soon this happens the better for them, the media overhype them way too much and this is what happens
     

    metalhead

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    Sep 23, 2005
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    metalhead said:
    I saw England's match against Macedonia yesterday and I have to say, I love to see that team suffer. The so called best individual talents in the world got fed their arses after their lucky win last month :D Macedonia play very well and they deserved even more.

    Anyways, Croatia can beat England especially having played a practice match yesterday against Andorra.

    Even worse for England is that their best player Gerrard is suspended for the match, so there will be none of those long range shots. No Becks to deliver good crosses and FKs. Rooney is in bad shape. And that Ledily King is a Joke :smoke:

    I'm afraid I have to say it, "I told you so: :cool:

    I love seeing those full of sh it English/Priemiership players come crashing down to earth. When they had Ericsson, they complained about the bad play, but at least they qualified to major tournaments. Becks was saving their arses with his FK and crosses but becomes a scape goat for some reason :eyebrows: Now Mr "I want character...pride... passion... attitude" Mac Laren is struggeling to even qualify :D
     

    Intro

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    I like the fact that McClaren wanted to show "tactical flexibility" by switching formation to 3-5-2.

    Firstly, I can't think of any important club or national team which has played that formation successfully for some time. But secondly switching from a rigid 4-4-2 to a 3-5-2 using the same full-backs instigated by an overload of central defenders is not a show of tactical flexibility.

    Such a change is more infrastructrual and does more damage than good. It's primary change is in the defensive configuration - an area England are already strong in. It does not alter the attacking options in the final third or how a team attacks - at least not how McClaren changed the team.

    To do that England doesn't need to use three centre-backs but instead fluidity in midfield and attack. Those can be gained with 4-4-2(diamond), 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3 or even a 4-5-1. So many permutations but those unknown to English coaches and supporters - what Jeeks is referring to in the mentality of English football followers.

    Slaven Bilic was partly correct after the match in saying that "systems are dead in football". Whilst strictly not true days of setting out rigid formations such as McClaren did today and expecting them to expose teams doesn't work. Players need to be flexible and show technical skills and intelligence - something England lacks.

    The only player who is capable of this has missed all of McClaren's matches in charge. No not Rooney - but Joe Cole. Even under Eriksson and the most rigid 4-4-2 he managed to give England that dynamism Bilic is talking about - a player that makes the difference not the position.

    Rooney tonight and his antics at the WC proved to me despite his skill levels (in my opinion less than Joe Cole) is as English as all of his peers. His reluctance to adapt his role (i.e. the link striker) makes him one of the least flexible fowards in Europe. As shown in the WC he was frustrated (ultimately led to his dismissal against Portugal) when forced to play a role which most skillful strikers revel in - yet when playing with Crouch who needs that player to use their pace ahead Rooney could not move away from his comfort zone.

    The comfort zone is where all England players are - too scared too change what they appear good at doing, just getting by with fantastic moments to cover their weaknesses. From Beckham to long-balls, crosses, free-kicks. Lampard and his goals but no-performances from midfield. Michael Owen with his goal scoring average and nothing else. Now Rooney with his one-sided skillset.

    Fantastic...WC winners again in 2066?
     

    AzzurriGirl

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    Jul 23, 2006
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    To Vlatko and Mark...congratulations on Croatia's win today :pint: :toast:

    I like the Croatian team...especially Kranjcar and the Kovac brothers. I watched Modric play vs. Italy in the friendly and he was impressive. Looks to have a promising future. I followed Croatia during the WC and was disappointed to see that they didn't advance...though if they beat Australia they would have faced Italy I believe.

    The new coach seems to be successful so far. I will keep following them. They are my next NT after the Azzurri of course. And they both won today. It was a good day.:D
     

    Ahmed

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    Sep 3, 2006
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    very sad performance from england...so many players who r "superstars" but somehow always mess up when it comes to playing for the 3 lions...4 sure tomorrow some england player will say that racist chants was affecting his performance
     

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