at the teams playing tomorrow...ManCity vs Dynamo
Atletico vs PSV
After today's matches with Juve vs Bayern, and Barcelona vs Arsenal.
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at the teams playing tomorrow...ManCity vs Dynamo
Atletico vs PSV
After today's matches with Juve vs Bayern, and Barcelona vs Arsenal.
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@pavluska,
Nothing to do with Azzurri7's post.
For me having Italian teams dropping out in order to gain additional money isn't that much of a big deal like you're making it sound.Why do you see it as a benefit ? Because we can buy expensive players with that money ? Guess what our transfer strategy won't change.
It's all temporary and as far as I know the CL deal with mediaset is a 3 yr deal so when you have just one Italian team doing something relevant in the CL, there's a less room to negotiate a much bigger deal come 2018.It's pretty simple.
And imagine in the same timeframe, other leagues grow to an extent where we won't be able to catch up anymore.See where I'm getting at ? Despite how many of you deny it , Juventus
absolutely need the league to enhance its brand.Not only do they need a consistent competitor in the league but also need Italian teams to be competent enough in CL to attract foreign investment.Serie A needs foreign investment absolutely.
Please stop bringing the Bayern example.Their income is structured differently.Most of their income comes from the commercial side.
They are backed by plenty of rich German sponsors(unlike Italy/Juventus) and it seems unlike Italy again, there's a big market in Germany to sell Bayern products/Bayern merchandise.They aren't as dependent on foreign investment as Italy is.
So basically despite how non-competitive Bundesliga continues to be, Germany and the German populace will do enough to keep its best club healthy.Now that Bayern are a major brand already, they're attracting foreign sponsors too so they're sorted.
Juventus just isn't in the same position.Juventus is rebuilding it's brand.While they're rebuilding, we need the league to 'rebuild' it's brand in order to garner much bigger and lucrative tv deals and sponsors from abroad.I'm telling you, it's the only way we're shooting up our income to a big extent otherwise we're going to stagnate.
So in the end basically I see more cons than pro's hoping Italian teams fail so we can have a 'major share' of CL money.
Nothing to do with Azzurri7's post.
For me having Italian teams dropping out in order to gain additional money isn't that much of a big deal like you're making it sound.Why do you see it as a benefit ? Because we can buy expensive players with that money ? Guess what our transfer strategy won't change.
It's all temporary and as far as I know the CL deal with mediaset is a 3 yr deal so when you have just one Italian team doing something relevant in the CL, there's a less room to negotiate a much bigger deal come 2018.It's pretty simple.
And imagine in the same timeframe, other leagues grow to an extent where we won't be able to catch up anymore.See where I'm getting at ? Despite how many of you deny it , Juventus
absolutely need the league to enhance its brand.Not only do they need a consistent competitor in the league but also need Italian teams to be competent enough in CL to attract foreign investment.Serie A needs foreign investment absolutely.
Please stop bringing the Bayern example.Their income is structured differently.Most of their income comes from the commercial side.
They are backed by plenty of rich German sponsors(unlike Italy/Juventus) and it seems unlike Italy again, there's a big market in Germany to sell Bayern products/Bayern merchandise.They aren't as dependent on foreign investment as Italy is.
So basically despite how non-competitive Bundesliga continues to be, Germany and the German populace will do enough to keep its best club healthy.Now that Bayern are a major brand already, they're attracting foreign sponsors too so they're sorted.
Juventus just isn't in the same position.Juventus is rebuilding it's brand.While they're rebuilding, we need the league to 'rebuild' it's brand in order to garner much bigger and lucrative tv deals and sponsors from abroad.I'm telling you, it's the only way we're shooting up our income to a big extent otherwise we're going to stagnate.
So in the end basically I see more cons than pro's hoping Italian teams fail so we can have a 'major share' of CL money.
The quality of the league is a function of the quality of the league management and the quality of the teams. On both fronts the gap is widening compared to the Germans, Spanish and most of all the British.
You are assuming that the rest of the Serie A teams will get their act together soon and start having good performances in Europe while Serie A leadership will work on fixing the brand. I dont see that as inevitable. Serie A leadership is just too bad and I dont see it getting better soon. The gap with England, Germany and Spain will increase because they have good management, and great marketing (especially EPL). Consequently, it will become increasingly more difficult for the rest of Serie A big teams to get their act together the more that gap widens. EPL teams will get richer while Milan and Inter will get poorer and the catching up task becomes more difficult.
So perhaps until we see some serious efforts at renewal from the Serie A leadership (the racist guy and his ilk), we might be better off being the only CL team in Italy. In other words, Since Serie A will probably continue to hold us back financially in an increasing manner as the other leagues strike better deals, our best scenario might be to take as much of the relatively shrinking Serie A money pool as we can.
Juve is like having a great company in a country that is falling economically. As long as the economy is falling, its better to take as much money as possible. Sooner or later the economy will make it too difficult to compete.
You are assuming that the rest of the Serie A teams will get their act together soon and start having good performances in Europe while Serie A leadership will work on fixing the brand. I dont see that as inevitable. Serie A leadership is just too bad and I dont see it getting better soon. The gap with England, Germany and Spain will increase because they have good management, and great marketing (especially EPL). Consequently, it will become increasingly more difficult for the rest of Serie A big teams to get their act together the more that gap widens. EPL teams will get richer while Milan and Inter will get poorer and the catching up task becomes more difficult.
So perhaps until we see some serious efforts at renewal from the Serie A leadership (the racist guy and his ilk), we might be better off being the only CL team in Italy. In other words, Since Serie A will probably continue to hold us back financially in an increasing manner as the other leagues strike better deals, our best scenario might be to take as much of the relatively shrinking Serie A money pool as we can.
Juve is like having a great company in a country that is falling economically. As long as the economy is falling, its better to take as much money as possible. Sooner or later the economy will make it too difficult to compete.
Well yeah you can't beat Barcelona without a cutting edge. If you play that well and have something up front anything is possible. Really they needed to win 2-0, which is not impossible. Barcelona aren't unbeatable but it's hard to stay on top for long periods and you simply must take your chances.
Alexis is badly out of form and looks like Giroud is going into another slump, bad timing.
Alexis is badly out of form and looks like Giroud is going into another slump, bad timing.
We played well for a long time, but eventually we made the same silly mistakes we always make. We are just not cynical enough for Europe, the counter attack for the first goal, someone should have taken a yellow for the team and committed a foul, it was obvious as soon as the ball came to Neymar that it was going to be a real goalscoring opportunity. and yes our finishing was indeed laughable, and our passing at times was just comical, we looked like a midtable team sometimes with our awry passing.
first Goal scored with Lewandosky obstructing Buffon's visual = non regolar
second Goal Lewnadosky clearly foul Bonucci but refree didn't stop the game and we had a 3vs2 which led then to Robben goal= non regolar the game had to be stopped earlier
Vidal blanty handball with the hand moving away from the body = penalty not given
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As written having a country in a poor economic state doesn't help. Plus the italian mentality which doesn't make games that much entertaining compared to the 3 leagues is there as well.
Why would someone watch a minor game (but even big ones) if the game is all about defending and not letting other scores. It's boring.
Unlike in Bundes,Liga and PL where the football is more about speed and quality. While here it's all about defending and tactics.
La Liga and Bundes has a much lower local deal than Serie A but they sell much better internationally. Leading la Liga to gain 1,5b per year with local+international while Serie A even tough we have a local deal for 986m/y international gains are less than 300m.
Dunno if it's possible but to change the italian mentality i'd remove points for draws. Like someone suggested (dun remember who) if you draw 0-0 no points given to anyone.
I think it'd makes things more entertaining for those watching.
To that if you wanna make a league more interesting the difference in tv money between the first and the last shoudn't be more then the double.
While we have Juventus gaining 108m we have teams getting 15m or less.
second Goal Lewnadosky clearly foul Bonucci but refree didn't stop the game and we had a 3vs2 which led then to Robben goal= non regolar the game had to be stopped earlier
Vidal blanty handball with the hand moving away from the body = penalty not given
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As written having a country in a poor economic state doesn't help. Plus the italian mentality which doesn't make games that much entertaining compared to the 3 leagues is there as well.
Why would someone watch a minor game (but even big ones) if the game is all about defending and not letting other scores. It's boring.
Unlike in Bundes,Liga and PL where the football is more about speed and quality. While here it's all about defending and tactics.
La Liga and Bundes has a much lower local deal than Serie A but they sell much better internationally. Leading la Liga to gain 1,5b per year with local+international while Serie A even tough we have a local deal for 986m/y international gains are less than 300m.
Dunno if it's possible but to change the italian mentality i'd remove points for draws. Like someone suggested (dun remember who) if you draw 0-0 no points given to anyone.
I think it'd makes things more entertaining for those watching.
To that if you wanna make a league more interesting the difference in tv money between the first and the last shoudn't be more then the double.
While we have Juventus gaining 108m we have teams getting 15m or less.
Is it me or anyone else thinks this list makes no sense?
http://www.football-italia.net/80332/juve-climb-uefa-rankings
http://www.football-italia.net/80332/juve-climb-uefa-rankings
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