[CL] Barcelona 3-0 JUVENTUS [September 12th 2017] (12 Viewers)
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I didn't mean it in the sense that he needed protecting in particular, even if he probably does, but because he is a pretty attacking fullback and it adds more balance. It's early days and we haven't got Höwedes integrated enough to use him yet. Allegri knows MDS. I think we'll see MDS more in a 4-3-3 and Höwedes more in a 4-2-3-1 with an authentic attacking right winger ahead of him, at least early days.
Having a 3 man midfield adds more compactness against a team who can overwhelm you with possession in midfield, same as happened with Madrid, or Italy vs Spain. I'm pretty sure that is Allegri's thinking, and he doesn't have any other CM options fit aside from the kid Bentancur. With Höwedes right back it would just be too defensive and have no outlet out wide right.
Having a 3 man midfield adds more compactness against a team who can overwhelm you with possession in midfield, same as happened with Madrid, or Italy vs Spain. I'm pretty sure that is Allegri's thinking, and he doesn't have any other CM options fit aside from the kid Bentancur. With Höwedes right back it would just be too defensive and have no outlet out wide right.
After this humuliation Messi quits.
MDS isnt an attacking fullback, he is just a fullback. Not being good enough defensively as CBs (or in general) doesnt make you so attacking (he gets forward more then a Barza or Höwedes, means little, except they are less useful in 4-3-3 then him indeed) that you need hand holding from winger infront of you, adds little offensively to warrant this special needs adapting (if its true) . Even if Cuadrado tracking back is super important for the shape Allegri likes to keep, it shouldnt be overdone IMO in terms seeing it as no choice to change if he isnt available. You bought MDS, do you trust him to play him without comprising the whole set up the team? No, then why get him. More importantly, why put him in CL list over Licht who is seasoned enough to not need this whole makeshift tactical babysitting, even if he isnt good enough starter either.
I get the pragmatic need to crowd the midfield with 4-3-3, but not only dont I think it suits Dybala to play like that (unless its CF), but we shouldnt really be too hang up on wanting to sacrifice our shape based on opponents, especially at home.
I get the pragmatic need to crowd the midfield with 4-3-3, but not only dont I think it suits Dybala to play like that (unless its CF), but we shouldnt really be too hang up on wanting to sacrifice our shape based on opponents, especially at home.
what about playing barza and berna instead of ds&stu? we saw earlier this season that with dybala being our only player without considerable defensive duty, piggy is happy to backtrack and/or do the pressing when possession is lost, and my guess is that berna could do the same for the team, so we won't be too short of defensive work without stu. also, stu is a mediocre passer, and that's supposed to be berna's main asset. also, ds is a weak man marker, which is bad news, whoever he faces. we saw lukaku beat him on 1on1, imagine dembele, deulofeu or even suarez facing him. i'd be fine with stu as a right back and berna as our winger, too. yes, i have so little faith in de sciglio at the moment.
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exactly
ds might be marotta's (and/or allegri's) worst effort on the transfer market this summer. i do hope for the sake of the team that ds proves us wrong.
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exactly
ds might be marotta's (and/or allegri's) worst effort on the transfer market this summer. i do hope for the sake of the team that ds proves us wrong.
https://www.tuttojuve.com/in-dirett...edira-e-marchisio-alle-1815-parleranno-387318
he might be available, just like sandy and mario
he might be available, just like sandy and mario
I thought we finished that "experiment" when we signed actual wingers...hope that isn't true.
This would be my fav line-up, if you exchange DC with Berna. But i don't think Hoewedes will have his debut against Barca.
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Think it could be something like that, but with Barza on Howedes' position and Rugani/Banatia on Barza's position.
...and with Sturaro on DC's position. 
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Your precious ego cant handle that they arent integrated that soon and we arent going to imbalance our formation as a result ?
good, be devastated
Because he may think Matuidi fits more in 3 man mid? (cant be a coincidence his first start was in that set up), or because he doesnt think the new players are tactically or defensively prepared enough to replace Cuadrado's tracking back? Or probably a combination of both, but IMO his biggiest headache is probably still the RB sitaution, since the midfield will be ok again when injured players are back/Cuadrado available again/new wingers learn how to sacrifice for the team off the ball etc.
