[CL]Arsenal vs Juventus (13 Viewers)

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Bjerknes

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KoloToure said:
I think our line up will be something like this


--------------------------------------Lehman---------------------------------



----Eboue----------------Toure---------------Campbell------------------Cole/Flamini




----------------------------Fabregas---------Gilberto---------------------------------



------Hleb----------------------------------------------------------Ljunberg/Reyes



----------------------------------------------------Van Persie-----------------------


---------------------------------------Henry-------------------------------------------



Eboue and Hleb make an absolutly AWESOME combination they play really well togeather and both VERY quick. Eboue is a solid player who loves to attack so he will be attack alot.

Fabregas will be dictating the game picking his passes and taking lose balls. He ahs a quick brain and sees passes before anyone so if someone is making a run in the corner of his eye he would just send then ball in a secound. Only 18....:agree:

Gilberto will play holding so he will try to defend as much as he can and block out your centre mids. He reads the game well and he is very good in the air.

Ljungberg makes lovely runs into the box with Fabregas and co he will have many chances he is also very fast which will cause you problems. Reyes might be injured he is a very talented player.


Van Persie and Henry what can i say! Just dont try to foul us anywhere near the box because if we get a free kick on the right Van Persie will score and on the left Henry will score both have a deadly free kick the curl and movement of Van Persie when he hits the ball is one of the best i have seen. He can score from anywhere and he is tall which would cause problems in the air. His control is fantastic and he will beat a Juve defender with his first touch alone.

We all know what Henry can do..........
What to do?


Andy said:
For an absolutely worthless post pondering the variables we should consider for this match, or in other words, what Capello will not do..

The simple way to beat Arsenal is to cut-off their rhythm in midfield and suffocate their movements on the pitch, something that requires hard work and holding lots of posession. A team such as Milan would be the perfect side to beat Arsenal, considering they do not let the opposition have much of the ball and hault their opponents in midfield with copius amounts of pressure and posession. We will need to emulate these tactics against Arsenal because if you run them over they will simply be choked. The fact you cannot let Arsenal control the tempo really applies to all English sides you'd face..

Buffon

Zambrotta - Thuram - Cannavaro - Balzaretti

Emerson - Vieira

Camoranesi - Del Piero (Nedved) - Mutu

Trezeguet


It's a real shame Nedved is not available for this match because I would place him right behind Trezeguet and make sure he comes back in midfield to disrupt any sort of influence Fabregas has on the match. Nedved, if on form, would cause Silva and Fabregas to come back deeper and thus hault them from going more forward. The deeper Emerson would pick up the darting Hleb and Vieira would roam around making sure everything is tidy in the center of the pitch. The last thing I want is to have Hleb or Ljungburg or Henry run at our defense with options because our straight four midfield was caught out. And with Nedved just running around like a headless chicken it would disrupt the Gunners enough in midfield to throw off their rhythm a bit.

Camoranesi and Mutu would expose the weaknesses of the Arsenal fullbacks and if we have enough of the ball we will undoubtedly beat their defense some point in time. You simply take the game from Arsenal and do not let them play...you force them to commit errors and don't let them get even a scent that you will give them any space. Make sure Henry gets roughed up and knock him around and dont let him have any space at all. This is all easier said than done, obviously, however the writing is on the wall what you need to do to beat Arsenal.

Will Capello follow any of these ideas? Nope. And we shall see how we fair with such generic tactics.
 

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Luftwaffles

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Dec 1, 2005
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KoloToure said:
I think our line up will be something like this


--------------------------------------Lehman---------------------------------



----Eboue----------------Toure---------------Campbell------------------Cole/Flamini




----------------------------Fabregas---------Gilberto---------------------------------



------Hleb----------------------------------------------------------Ljunberg/Reyes



----------------------------------------------------Van Persie-----------------------


---------------------------------------Henry-------------------------------------------



Eboue and Hleb make an absolutly AWESOME combination they play really well togeather and both VERY quick. Eboue is a solid player who loves to attack so he will be attack alot.

Fabregas will be dictating the game picking his passes and taking lose balls. He ahs a quick brain and sees passes before anyone so if someone is making a run in the corner of his eye he would just send then ball in a secound. Only 18....:agree:

Gilberto will play holding so he will try to defend as much as he can and block out your centre mids. He reads the game well and he is very good in the air.

Ljungberg makes lovely runs into the box with Fabregas and co he will have many chances he is also very fast which will cause you problems. Reyes might be injured he is a very talented player.


Van Persie and Henry what can i say! Just dont try to foul us anywhere near the box because if we get a free kick on the right Van Persie will score and on the left Henry will score both have a deadly free kick the curl and movement of Van Persie when he hits the ball is one of the best i have seen. He can score from anywhere and he is tall which would cause problems in the air. His control is fantastic and he will beat a Juve defender with his first touch alone.

We all know what Henry can do..........
Quite staggering really. I can't imagine wht you are about 345 points behind Chelsea. You must find it hard to imagine why too!
 

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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very balanced 2 matches , no one can predict what will happen and with our poor history against english teams , i am not optomistic
 

THE CHAMPIONS

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Hey kolo Toure I think ur team will play like this:Eboue_Toure_Campbell_Flamini_Hleb_Fabrigas_Gilberto_Lyunberg_Henry_Reyes.I dont think that Van Persie will start this one & of course if Cole is fit he will replace Flamini!
 

GordoDeCentral

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We will not take the game to them, we'll absorb the pressure and if they dont score in the first 15 minutes we'll impose our tempo. Balzaretti, though quick, doesnt have the XP for a game of this importance. and we will definitely need Zebina for set pieces. Mutu and Camo cannot both be in the line-up imo; Ibra will shine in an open contest english style so he should get the nod.


Buffon
Zebina Cannavaro Thuram Zambrotta
Camoranesi Emerson Vieira Nedved
Ibrahimovic Trezeguet
 

THE CHAMPIONS

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Altair said:
We will not take the game to them, we'll absorb the pressure and if they dont score in the first 15 minutes we'll impose our tempo. Balzaretti, though quick, doesnt have the XP for a game of this importance. and we will definitely need Zebina for set pieces. Mutu and Camo cannot both be in the line-up imo; Ibra will shine in an open contest english style so he should get the nod.


Buffon
Zebina Cannavaro Thuram Zambrotta
Camoranesi Emerson Vieira Nedved
Ibrahimovic Trezeguet
Nedved is out !
 

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does anyone know will campbell be able to play? i know he was injured, just don't remember if it was serious or not. if he doesn't play that will be good, cause i'm sure trez is gonna pack at least one goal from a corner or free kick. campbell though will make it a whole lot harder.
 

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Maresca said:
I am still blaming Ancelloti for wasting the talend of Henry at juve :(
yep, but then he was a winger. so possibly it's not as much our fault as it is wenger's credit.
 

GordoDeCentral

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in that case we need a biiig game from Vieira on both fronts. Mutu loses the ball too much and is not of much help defensively.
So my updated line-up would look like this

Buffon
Zebina Thuram Cannavaro Chiellini
Emerson Vieira Zambrotta
Del Piero
Ibrahimovic Trezeguet
 

THE CHAMPIONS

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Altair said:
in that case we need a biiig game from Vieira on both fronts. Mutu loses the ball too much and is not of much help defensively.
So my updated line-up would look like this

Buffon
Zebina Thuram Cannavaro Chiellini
Emerson Vieira Zambrotta
Del Piero
Ibrahimovic Trezeguet
No will never happen man!Its Capello!the probable line up:buffon_Zebina(Chiellini)_Thuram_Canna_Zambo_Camo_Viera_Emerson_Mutu_Trezy_Ibra(Dp)
 
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Arsenal in Premership is not in good position and maybe will not be in next Champions Leage. There is no doubt that they will do everythink for claiming this CL cup. Don't forget last year's Liverpoool which was in the same position and they send out many favorites (Juve was one) and at the end they won the cup. So we have to forget any other mutch in Italy (as Arsenal does in England) and focalize to how can we face Arsenal. We mustn't think that we maybe are superior of them because then, the disaster will be huge. If the players have taken the lesson from Werder it will be better for them.
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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vlatko said:
yep, but then he was a winger. so possibly it's not as much our fault as it is wenger's credit.
no no, it was all ancelottis fault. Henry was never a winger.. he was a striker beside Trez at Monaco, he played as a striker for france and he came as a striker to juve, in the season, where DP was injuired and we did not score for 5 games in row after he got injuired. In the first months he played as a striker but in the next season´s friendlies Ancelotti had the fantastic idea to use him on the left side in a 3-5-2 formation.. and that was the end of the story..
 

giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
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KoloToure said:
I think our line up will be something like this


--------------------------------------Lehman---------------------------------



----Eboue----------------Toure---------------Campbell------------------Cole/Flamini




----------------------------Fabregas---------Gilberto---------------------------------



------Hleb----------------------------------------------------------Ljunberg/Reyes



----------------------------------------------------Van Persie-----------------------


---------------------------------------Henry-------------------------------------------



Eboue and Hleb make an absolutly AWESOME combination they play really well togeather and both VERY quick. Eboue is a solid player who loves to attack so he will be attack alot.

Fabregas will be dictating the game picking his passes and taking lose balls. He ahs a quick brain and sees passes before anyone so if someone is making a run in the corner of his eye he would just send then ball in a secound. Only 18....:agree:

Gilberto will play holding so he will try to defend as much as he can and block out your centre mids. He reads the game well and he is very good in the air.

Ljungberg makes lovely runs into the box with Fabregas and co he will have many chances he is also very fast which will cause you problems. Reyes might be injured he is a very talented player.


Van Persie and Henry what can i say! Just dont try to foul us anywhere near the box because if we get a free kick on the right Van Persie will score and on the left Henry will score both have a deadly free kick the curl and movement of Van Persie when he hits the ball is one of the best i have seen. He can score from anywhere and he is tall which would cause problems in the air. His control is fantastic and he will beat a Juve defender with his first touch alone.

We all know what Henry can do..........
I hope that Canna will handle Henry!!!Or maybe Zambrotta, but we certainly have some quality defenders at disposal.

Anyway,Kolo Toure,that was a quality post!:)
 

giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
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joe5 said:
Arsenal in Premership is not in good position and maybe will not be in next Champions Leage. There is no doubt that they will do everythink for claiming this CL cup. Don't forget last year's Liverpoool which was in the same position and they send out many favorites (Juve was one) and at the end they won the cup. So we have to forget any other mutch in Italy (as Arsenal does in England) and focalize to how can we face Arsenal. We mustn't think that we maybe are superior of them because then, the disaster will be huge. If the players have taken the lesson from Werder it will be better for them.
Yes,but Liverpool wouldn't be in the competition,this year,if UEFA didn't make an exception.They were 5. in their league and there was no possibility for them to participate in the competition because it was clearly defined by the UEFA Standards and the EPL coefficients.

So,if Arsenal want to take a place in next year's competition,they need to be 4. in their league,because there won't be any exceptions again.
 
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