You might be right. Adjusting is obviously going to need time, no argument there. Right now however, I remain far from convinced that the 4-3-1-2 is the way to go with this set of players.
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Like yourself, I don't really like the 4-3-1-2 that much either. Sure when everything's going your way you'll probably see some cracking play but it's rather flawed & too easy to exploit for the adversary.
My suggestion: Given the fact that the season has already begun, we obviously need to be very carefull. Now is definitely not the time to do a lot of experimenting. Therefore I would only make minor alterations.
Considering this, I would lean towards the 4-2-3-1 that has already been suggested by many people. Our flanks would become somewhat less vulnerable & at the same time our attacking play becomes less predictable. Plus we have attackers that should be suited to playing as a single striker.
If we had more time right now I wouldn't mind experimenting with a backline consisting of 3 (or 5, depending on how you look at it).
My suggestion: Given the fact that the season has already begun, we obviously need to be very carefull. Now is definitely not the time to do a lot of experimenting. Therefore I would only make minor alterations.
Considering this, I would lean towards the 4-2-3-1 that has already been suggested by many people. Our flanks would become somewhat less vulnerable & at the same time our attacking play becomes less predictable. Plus we have attackers that should be suited to playing as a single striker.
If we had more time right now I wouldn't mind experimenting with a backline consisting of 3 (or 5, depending on how you look at it).
What red said is 100% spot on. We don't have the players that would function in the 4-2-3-1 formation. Sure we can play with Camo+Diego+Gio as the 3 AM in that system but what happens if one of them is injured or suspended ?!!
Taking into consideration that Camo is a pretty injury-prone player that scenario is very much likely to happen. So we're gonna change the formation week in week out wouldn't be such a smart move.
The two "most reallistic" formation for the current set of players that we have is either the 4-3-1-2 or the 4-3-2-1
Taking into consideration that Camo is a pretty injury-prone player that scenario is very much likely to happen. So we're gonna change the formation week in week out wouldn't be such a smart move.
The two "most reallistic" formation for the current set of players that we have is either the 4-3-1-2 or the 4-3-2-1
A 4-3-2-1 wouldn't be bad. Our midfield is definitely the strongest area of the team and without Ale to pair someone with up front our strikers don't seem to be able to play well together.
Amauri/Trez/IQ
Diego--------Camo
Marchisio --- Melo --- Sissoko
Grosso --- Chiellini --- Canna --- Grygera/Zebina
Buffon
Diego--------Camo
Marchisio --- Melo --- Sissoko
Grosso --- Chiellini --- Canna --- Grygera/Zebina
Buffon
What red said is 100% spot on. We don't have the players that would function in the 4-2-3-1 formation. Sure we can play with Camo+Diego+Gio as the 3 AM in that system but what happens if one of them is injured or suspended ?!!
Taking into consideration that Camo is a pretty injury-prone player that scenario is very much likely to happen. So we're gonna change the formation week in week out wouldn't be such a smart move.
The two "most reallistic" formation for the current set of players that we have is either the 4-3-1-2 or the 4-3-2-1
Taking into consideration that Camo is a pretty injury-prone player that scenario is very much likely to happen. So we're gonna change the formation week in week out wouldn't be such a smart move.
The two "most reallistic" formation for the current set of players that we have is either the 4-3-1-2 or the 4-3-2-1
Imo, our current midfield trio (and I mean the way we employ it, pretty much regardless of the players used) is just not working.
We have had trouble controlling the midfield in almost every single game we have played this season, despite some good, or even great, individual performances by our mids. That should really tell us something.
Any formation that doesn't include wide midfielders requires our fullbacks to play well as they are the only ones providing width. It's not as though there's some magic formation where you can field fullbacks, have them play like rubbish, and it not make a difference.
The reason I wouldn't mind us trying something like that is because our strikers don't work too well together when Ale isn't there. Don't know if you've watched the team play in the last few weeks but we look like boys amongst men in the last third of the pitch. Can't even string a few passes together let alone get a decent shot on goal.
So my theory is, if the midfield is where we possess most of strength and depth then why not try to use it to our advantage. Who cares if Ancelotti's popularized it? Don't know about you, but I'd rather have any of Camo, Sissoko, Marchisio, Melo and Diego on the pitch before Iaquinta.
The reason I wouldn't mind us trying something like that is because our strikers don't work too well together when Ale isn't there. Don't know if you've watched the team play in the last few weeks but we look like boys amongst men in the last third of the pitch. Can't even string a few passes together let alone get a decent shot on goal.
So my theory is, if the midfield is where we possess most of strength and depth then why not try to use it to our advantage. Who cares if Ancelotti's popularized it? Don't know about you, but I'd rather have any of Camo, Sissoko, Marchisio, Melo and Diego on the pitch before Iaquinta.
Just a thought:
---------------Buffon
--Leggrotaglie--Canna--Chiellini
Camoranesi--Melo--Sissoko--Marchisio
-------------------Diego
----------Del Piero--Amauri
Of course Ferrara would never field a three man defense but it could be interesting to try seeing how bad our wing backs are, I would love to see this or a diff formation with three defenders and four midfielders behind Diego, it would be very risky but really sick if it worked
---------------Buffon
--Leggrotaglie--Canna--Chiellini
Camoranesi--Melo--Sissoko--Marchisio
-------------------Diego
----------Del Piero--Amauri
Of course Ferrara would never field a three man defense but it could be interesting to try seeing how bad our wing backs are, I would love to see this or a diff formation with three defenders and four midfielders behind Diego, it would be very risky but really sick if it worked
And again, for the THIRD time this week, thank GOD Ferrara isn't so dumb as to try something like this. Seriously, this is so much stupidity that I even think less of this board now, since THREE people came up with such crap in the span of four days. It would be one thing if only one PES player tried three at the back with attacking wingers, but after this, I've had enough.
This is not a FUCKING PES 10 or FM board, alright? Take that crap elsewhere.
This is not a FUCKING PES 10 or FM board, alright? Take that crap elsewhere.
