Real Madrid and Barcelona have only played twice in last twenty eight years last being in the season 2010-11
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Cause we sell major name every summer and our winning record of the competition is worse than the above mentioned. And i know Barca sold Neymar. But they have Messi. Real and Bayern have managers who have won it multiple times.
City have spent more than us last decade and also have a manager who won it 2x.
City have spent more than us last decade and also have a manager who won it 2x.
This only thing that smells is your ability to understand probability.
So what's the probability of Juventus playing Real 3 times in comparison to Real and Barcelona never playing each other?
Also more to add to the list:
2 Bayern vs Juve games since 2013.
Funny how all the big teams have played each other at least once, except a certain pair.
Last 8 years, both have qualified to QFs yet they did not draw each other.
Below is the calculation of 2 teams drawing each other at least once in 8 years.
Year 1: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 2: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 4: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 4: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 5: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 6: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 7: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 8: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
The probability for the above event combined is 6/7 to the power 8 = 0.3436089158
As such, the probability that the event of Barca and Real draw each other at least once in 8 years = 1-0.3436089158 = 0.6563910842 = 65.63910842%
Below is the calculation of 2 teams drawing each other at least once in 8 years.
Year 1: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 2: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 4: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 4: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 5: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 6: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 7: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
Year 8: 6/7 chance it doesn't happen
The probability for the above event combined is 6/7 to the power 8 = 0.3436089158
As such, the probability that the event of Barca and Real draw each other at least once in 8 years = 1-0.3436089158 = 0.6563910842 = 65.63910842%
Why do you guys bother so much about it. It is what it is. We cant do anything about. If they truly fixed it we would have had a Barca-Real final by now. Just give fixed red card against opponent in the semis. Or a pen kick. Since there is no VAR nothing to force to recheck.
They could have given Real Sevilla (5:0 win in league) if they wanted the fix. We are harder opponent historically in 2legs.
They could have given Real Sevilla (5:0 win in league) if they wanted the fix. We are harder opponent historically in 2legs.
Roberto Carlos' Champions League draw leads to calls of conspiracy
Thursday's Champions League draw was relatively friendly to the four English teams involved, with Leicester City, Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City all presented with groups from which they would hope to qualify.
Roberto Carlos was one of the ex-players involved in this year's draw, and supporters of many of the bigger clubs can be thankful to him for sparing them an obvious 'group of death'.
Of course, we're not suggesting the Brazilian legend deliberately ensured an easy passage to the knockout stages - but other people seem convinced he was at the centre of a huge conspiracy.
Most years you get unfounded theories about 'warm balls' being used to keep certain teams apart from one another, but some believe Roberto Carlos' actions are even more suspicious.
They have noted that, during the draw, he removed one ball from a bowl before returning it and drawing out another.
He ends up drawing out Ludogorets Razgrad, the Bulgarian champions who took a point off Liverpool in the 2014/15 season.
They ended up in Group A, alongside PSG, Arsenal and Basel. Was there another team's name in the ball he drew out first? We'll never know. But we're not sure what difference it makes to an Arsenal team that might otherwise have ended up facing the might of FC Copenhagen or Celtic.
Sure, Dinamo Zagreb were also an option, but the Croatians' victory over the Gunners last season was the exception, not the rule. And anyway, if you were really going to fix a draw you surely wouldn't make the pot 4 teams the focus. Surely...
Thursday's Champions League draw was relatively friendly to the four English teams involved, with Leicester City, Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City all presented with groups from which they would hope to qualify.
Roberto Carlos was one of the ex-players involved in this year's draw, and supporters of many of the bigger clubs can be thankful to him for sparing them an obvious 'group of death'.
Of course, we're not suggesting the Brazilian legend deliberately ensured an easy passage to the knockout stages - but other people seem convinced he was at the centre of a huge conspiracy.
Most years you get unfounded theories about 'warm balls' being used to keep certain teams apart from one another, but some believe Roberto Carlos' actions are even more suspicious.
They have noted that, during the draw, he removed one ball from a bowl before returning it and drawing out another.
He ends up drawing out Ludogorets Razgrad, the Bulgarian champions who took a point off Liverpool in the 2014/15 season.
They ended up in Group A, alongside PSG, Arsenal and Basel. Was there another team's name in the ball he drew out first? We'll never know. But we're not sure what difference it makes to an Arsenal team that might otherwise have ended up facing the might of FC Copenhagen or Celtic.
Sure, Dinamo Zagreb were also an option, but the Croatians' victory over the Gunners last season was the exception, not the rule. And anyway, if you were really going to fix a draw you surely wouldn't make the pot 4 teams the focus. Surely...
Dude, ever Blatter claimed that UEFA fix draws
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-balls-as-fifa-corruption-probe-a7081161.html
Unfortunately football is corrupt due to the amount of money it brings.
I do not think that refs are 'bought,' but I do think there is a lot of doggy dealing in terms of which country hosts tournaments and draws by UEFA/FIFA.
Nice maths!
The probability of rolling 9, 10, 11 or 12 with two dice is 27.78%. Less than your 34% for not Real-Barca. Whilst you might not bet on either outcome unless the payout was worth the risk, it's not so unlikely that it'd be a huge surprise if it happened.
And to think that the people doing the draw (many ex-players affiliated with teams other than these two) are in on any collusion is ludicrous. All it takes is for one to say "fuck that, and by the way, I'm going to the press" and that's UEFA down the toilet.
The probability of rolling 9, 10, 11 or 12 with two dice is 27.78%. Less than your 34% for not Real-Barca. Whilst you might not bet on either outcome unless the payout was worth the risk, it's not so unlikely that it'd be a huge surprise if it happened.
And to think that the people doing the draw (many ex-players affiliated with teams other than these two) are in on any collusion is ludicrous. All it takes is for one to say "fuck that, and by the way, I'm going to the press" and that's UEFA down the toilet.
So how do they do it?
Two warm balls (Barca and Real) and the super rich football superstars who draw the balls are told not to pair the warm balls together? If they bother to make this blatant crime, why stop at the two warm balls? Why don't they go a step further by making sure that Barca and Real get an easier draw? Last year Real got Bayern in the quarters and Barca got Juve. Leicester, Dortmund and Monaco were in the quarters too. Since they had the two warm balls, it wouldn't have been a problem to add two cold ones.
Two warm balls (Barca and Real) and the super rich football superstars who draw the balls are told not to pair the warm balls together? If they bother to make this blatant crime, why stop at the two warm balls? Why don't they go a step further by making sure that Barca and Real get an easier draw? Last year Real got Bayern in the quarters and Barca got Juve. Leicester, Dortmund and Monaco were in the quarters too. Since they had the two warm balls, it wouldn't have been a problem to add two cold ones.
