Calais immigrants (3 Viewers)

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,183
#25
kick them all out :lol:

I think we should do studies on whether it might be feasible to let them all in. People like to scream and shout that it would undermine our society, our social security and our jobs, but I wonder if there have been any actual studies done on this.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
36,940
#26
I think we should do studies on whether it might be feasible to let them all in. People like to scream and shout that it would undermine our society, our social security and our jobs, but I wonder if there have been any actual studies done on this.
Let them all in for what?! Get Europe to get their hands out of African riches and politics, then maybe they'll be less illegals fleeing for jobs out there instead of in their own homes. Jobs need to be created in third world countries, the economy needs to be stimulated and their resources need to be nationalized. These people have their own homes and are leaving it only because they have too.

And honestly, the only ones benefiting of this whole borders and immigrants non-sense are first world countries, whether it's America or France. The very fact that you hold a piece of paper that will allow you to cross almost any border with very little issues, all the while being able to control who comes in and out of your own state, while many other international citiziens of lesser countries have severely less mobility and very little control over their own borders and it's own national jurisdiction, you're basically running shit here!!!!
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,183
#27
Let them all in for what?! Get Europe to get their hands out of African riches and politics, then maybe they'll be less illegals fleeing for jobs out there instead of in their own homes. Jobs need to be created in third world countries, the economy needs to be stimulated and their resources need to be nationalized. These people have their own homes and are leaving it only because they have too.

And honestly, the only ones benefiting of this whole borders and immigrants non-sense are first world countries, whether it's America or France. The very fact that you hold a piece of paper that will allow you to cross almost any border with very little issues, all the while being able to control who comes in and out of your own state, while many other international citiziens of lesser countries have severely less mobility and very little control over their own borders and it's own national jurisdiction, you're basically running shit here!!!!

I never denied that..
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
#29
I think we should do studies on whether it might be feasible to let them all in. People like to scream and shout that it would undermine our society, our social security and our jobs, but I wonder if there have been any actual studies done on this.
Jobs most certainly will. They'll be directly competing for jobs wich doesnt require a degree or native dutch language.

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Then again, we got quite a bit of jobs in the loading and storage sector.

Orderpicking and loading/unloading sectors tends to prefer immigrants. They arent as pampered as natives, and tend to work harder without going on a strike so easely. I worked as an orderpicker at delhaise Depot Asse once, as a vacationjob. You simply cannot keep up with the pace the africans pull there. Most impressive. Union didnt like them cause when they wanted to do a strike about the wages a year before, they all came to work and forced their way into the magasin do to just that.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,183
#30
Jobs most certainly will. They'll be directly competing for jobs wich doesnt require a degree or native dutch language.
Those jobs are declining fast. And rarely, if ever, are they jobs that Belgians want to do in the first place.
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
#32
Separation by the smartness, the people who wants best future for their kids or themselves, dumbers and radicals doesn't want to study or assimilate, all they want is money and possibilities, they doesn't want to assimilate, work, get education etc.
the smart ones, the ones who'd like to follow the rules, will be allowed to stay in the country, will receive health care, will be receive prepaid get education for them, every month they will have to go to report how good they've learned the language of the country so far, should be created 6 month plan to learn the language otherwise you will be departed, you can't have more than 2 children, any single big law violation - deportation for you and your family, in 1 year or so you will have to pass the test that will prove that you assimilated well so far in the country and the government will give you a residence permit with 5 years probationary period, what the country will get in the end of this system - assimilated law-abiding citizens who pay their taxes and the national wealth because of it, also you cannot ask government to build any church, any special places for you and your relatives, government doesn't owe you anything, you came here - not they came to you

Also, if you graduated from known university in your country and can prove it and government can check it then you are in the first line to receive a chance for a better life
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,183
#34
Juventino[RUS];5037917 said:
Separation by the smartness, the people who wants best future for their kids or themselves, dumbers and radicals doesn't want to study or assimilate, all they want is money and possibilities, they doesn't want to assimilate, work, get education etc.
the smart ones, the ones who'd like to follow the rules, will be allowed to stay in the country, will receive health care, will be receive prepaid get education for them, every month they will have to go to report how good they've learned the language of the country so far, should be created 6 month plan to learn the language otherwise you will be departed, you can't have more than 2 children, any single big law violation - deportation for you and your family, in 1 year or so you will have to pass the test that will prove that you assimilated well so far in the country and the government will give you a residence permit with 5 years probationary period, what the country will get in the end of this system - assimilated law-abiding citizens who pay their taxes and the national wealth because of it, also you cannot ask government to build any church, any special places for you and your relatives, government doesn't owe you anything, you came here - not they came to you

Also, if you graduated from known university in your country and can prove it and government can check it then you are in the first line to receive a chance for a better life
​LOL.
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
61,240
#38
Juventino[RUS];5037938 said:
Most of the immigrants doesn't work to improve your country, why you don't understand, they DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE AND THE HISTORY OF the country, yet they are getting paid with some crazy money in benefits
You sound like a true bogan here in Australia. What a load of crap, they don't work to improve the country. Is everyone else working to improve the country? They work to improve themselves.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
#39
Juventino[RUS];5037938 said:
Most of the immigrants doesn't work to improve your country, why you don't understand, they DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE AND THE HISTORY OF the country, yet they are getting paid with some crazy money in benefits
When considering how much money employees in Belgium make, and how much they like to strike all the time, neighter are the domestic people
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
#40
You sound like a true bogan here in Australia. What a load of crap, they don't work to improve the country. Is everyone else working to improve the country? They work to improve themselves.
first of all, yes, to improve themselves, everybody wants to be rich as hell, 2nd of all - government with their tax policy are doing everything what they can to force you to improve the world around you
 

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