Azzurri Thread (27 Viewers)

[piotrr]

@JuveJay

I know you're good at these and like these. So give me your hypothetical Italy Euro 2020 or even World Cup 2022 lineup

So far I got

Donnarumma

Masina-Rugani-Romagnoli-Darmian
Jorginho-Verratti-Cataldi
Insigne-Kean-Berardi/Bernardeschi

Good one?

I can see Bonucci starting in 2020 if one of Rugani/Romagnoli fails to live to the hype.

 

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[Bianconero_Aus]

Yeah I think so too, I just wanted to do it more for players who are 24 and under. Bonucci and maybe even Marchisio will still be part of the set-up in 2020 I'd assume.

Edit: oh shit realised I added Darmian and he's over that age. Carry on

 

[Klin]

What's the story with Conte not selecting Berardi?

 

[AOD4]

Reports say 16 players are guaranteed to make Italy’s Euro 2016 squad, while Antonio Conte considers a 3-4-3 formation.

The Azzurri will play Spain at home and Germany away in international friendlies over the next week as their preparation for the summer tournament continues.

Gazzetta dello Sport reports today that 16 of the places in Conte’s squad for the Euros are already secured.

The newspaper believes the three goalkeepers will be Gigi Buffon, Mattia Perin and Salvatore Sirigu, while Andrea Barzagli, Leonardo Bonucci, Giorgio Chiellini and Matteo Darmian will go as defenders.

For the remaining defensive spots, the outlet believes Sassuolo’s Franceseco Acerbi is currently the favourite over Andrea Ranocchia and Davide Astori, while Luca Antonelli and Lorenzo De Silvestri will battle for full-back spots against Ignazio Abate and Mattia De Sciglio.

Gazzetta says Conte will take nine midfielders and that Marco Verratti, Claudio Marchisio, Marco Parolo, Antonio Candreva, Alessandro Florenzi and Stephan El Sharaawy are sure to go.

Andrea Pirlo and Daniele De Rossi are reportedly out of the equation, with Riccardo Montolivo, Thiago Motta and Jorginho fighting for a place in front of the defence.

For the remaining two spots, there will be a battle between Lorenzo Insigne, Federico Bernardeschi, Giacomo Bonaventura, Emanuele Giaccherini and Roberto Soriano.

Up front, Conte will pick Graziano Pelle, Simone Zaza and Eder according to Gazzetta. The fourth striker spot will be between Ciro Immobile and Stefano Okaka.

The newspaper also reports today that Conte wants to practice with a 3-4-3 formation, which would allow him to use Juventus’ defensive line while taking advantage of his wealth of wide options.

Gazzetta’s possible Italy XI: Buffon; Bonucci, Barzagli, Chiellini; Florenzi, Marchisio, Verratti, Darmian; Candreva, Zaza, El Shaarawy

 

[satfootball]

Italy lacks good attacking midfielders.

 

[Klin]

Italy lacks good attacking midfielders.

FLASH NEWS!

 

[X Æ A-12]

If Italy had anything resembling good attacking players that could be quite a team.

Well...maybe without Conte in charge

 

[satfootball]

FLASH NEWS!

are u okay?

 

[JuveJay]

@JuveJay

I know you're good at these and like these. So give me your hypothetical Italy Euro 2020 or even World Cup 2022 lineup

So far I got

Donnarumma

Masina-Rugani-Romagnoli-Darmian
Jorginho-Verratti-Cataldi
Insigne-Kean-Berardi/Bernardeschi

Good one?

The players are going to be aged something like 19-35 I guess, so that's 1985 to 2001 born. Kean would be 20, as a comparison.

(4-3-3/3-5-2)

Donnarumma (21)
Perin (28)
Scuffet (24)

Bonucci (33)
Rugani (26)
Romagnoli (25)
Tonelli (30)
Darmian (30)
De Sciglio (28)
Masina (26)

Verratti (27)
Mandragora (23)
Sensi (24)
Marchisio (34)
Jorginho (28)
Cataldi (26)
Florenzi (29)
Bertolacci (29)

Bernardeschi (26)
Insigne (29)
El Shaarawy (28)
Gabbiadini (29)
Zaza (29)


Others:
Cragno (26)
Leali (27)
Meret (23)

Barba (27)
Pezzella (23)
Antei (28)
Santon (29)
Calabria (24)
Ferrari (26)
Mattiello (25)
Regini (30)

Benassi (26)
Pellegrini (24)
Locatelli (22)
Grassi (25)
Cristante (25)
Soriano (30)
Mauri (24)
Barella (23)

Sansone (29)
Verde (24)
Berardi (25)
Cerri (24)
Monachello (26)
Vido (23)
Panico (23)
Kean (20)
Piu (24)
Scamacca (21)

Something like that. I don't think you will ever see many kids in a Nazionale squad, only perhaps outstanding talents. The ones I bolded in 'others' are what I consider to be the big talents, but the younger the player the more speculation. As ever with Italy there will be someone coming from nowhere to be a key player.

 

[Alex-444]

 

[zizinho]

Reports say 16 players are guaranteed to make Italy’s Euro 2016 squad, while Antonio Conte considers a 3-4-3 formation.

The Azzurri will play Spain at home and Germany away in international friendlies over the next week as their preparation for the summer tournament continues.

Gazzetta dello Sport reports today that 16 of the places in Conte’s squad for the Euros are already secured.

The newspaper believes the three goalkeepers will be Gigi Buffon, Mattia Perin and Salvatore Sirigu, while Andrea Barzagli, Leonardo Bonucci, Giorgio Chiellini and Matteo Darmian will go as defenders.

For the remaining defensive spots, the outlet believes Sassuolo’s Franceseco Acerbi is currently the favourite over Andrea Ranocchia and Davide Astori, while Luca Antonelli and Lorenzo De Silvestri will battle for full-back spots against Ignazio Abate and Mattia De Sciglio.

Gazzetta says Conte will take nine midfielders and that Marco Verratti, Claudio Marchisio, Marco Parolo, Antonio Candreva, Alessandro Florenzi and Stephan El Sharaawy are sure to go.

Andrea Pirlo and Daniele De Rossi are reportedly out of the equation, with Riccardo Montolivo, Thiago Motta and Jorginho fighting for a place in front of the defence.

For the remaining two spots, there will be a battle between Lorenzo Insigne, Federico Bernardeschi, Giacomo Bonaventura, Emanuele Giaccherini and Roberto Soriano.

Up front, Conte will pick Graziano Pelle, Simone Zaza and Eder according to Gazzetta. The fourth striker spot will be between Ciro Immobile and Stefano Okaka.

The newspaper also reports today that Conte wants to practice with a 3-4-3 formation, which would allow him to use Juventus’ defensive line while taking advantage of his wealth of wide options.

Gazzetta’s possible Italy XI: Buffon; Bonucci, Barzagli, Chiellini; Florenzi, Marchisio, Verratti, Darmian; Candreva, Zaza, El Shaarawy

also if your CFs are the weakest part of the team play a formation where you use only one of them and absolutely dont bring 4 with you on a 23 player squad. ffs Conte

that 3-4-3 looks like it has potential though

 

[Azzurri7]

Ciro Immobile, El Shaarawy

 

[zizinho]

actually, Shaaraway has been very good since joining Roma (5 goals 2 assists in 8 games so far). if its between him and Insigne though, id take Lorenzo but if it was up to me id take both, over the likes of Immobile, Okaka or Pelle...

 

[Alex-444]

Italy (probable): Buffon; Darmian, Bonucci, Acerbi; Florenzi, Jorginho, Montolivo, Antonelli; Candreva, Pellè, Eder
3-4-3

 

[JuveJay]

I know it's not even close to the strongest team Italy could field but jesus fuck that is mediocre. Possibly the worst Italy line up I've ever seen.

 

[icemaη]

Montolivo won't start for Pat's under 8 school side let alone an international team.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

I know it's not even close to the strongest team Italy could field but jesus fuck that is mediocre. Possibly the worst Italy line up I've ever seen.

Yep. That is horrendous. But let's be honest, Conte can field a stronger team than that but for some reason he won't. He's been a huge disappointment so far.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Italy (probable): Buffon; Darmian, Bonucci, Acerbi; Florenzi, Jorginho, Montolivo, Antonelli; Candreva, Pellè, Eder
3-4-3

Montolivo No words. Why is he still in the Italy set up? Eder? Hasn't scored a goal or played well at all since moving to Inter. Antonelli? Decent player but nowhere near international quality.

 

[JuveJay]

Maybe I'm cynical but Conte seems to thrive with this underdog mentality. What is he going to do at Chelsea, sell Hazard and replace him with Giaccherini?

 

[MikeM]

Conte will always favor players that take instruction over those who don't. It just so turns out that many of the most talented players are the ones who can't take instruction as easily. As such, he ends up preferring some lesser talents.

Conte is a good coach but my feeling is he will always make a group of lesser talents over-perform but at the same time he might stifle the ceiling of a team that has a lot of talent. By instituting such strict organization and tactics he pulls the bottom players up a level but he might bring the top players down to that same level.

One thing I agree with Pep is that in the first 2 thirds of the pitch, you listen to the coach but in the final 3rd you can do whatever you want. The final 3rd is where the talent shines.

But for me, Conte prefers the Immobile types who make the same runs into the same channels. Play the same combinations over and over as Conte likes them to be played.