arsenal 'scandal' (1 Viewer)

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Though on a not entirely unrelated note, Arsenal isn't looking too bright in the EPL either these days:

http://www.setanta.com/portal/artic...en&articleid=70c86825c7c5c92980257180006f031a

Arsenal under investigation
Thursday, 1 June 17:32 ET

Arsenal could be kicked out of the Champions League or face other severe penalties after Fifa revealed it is investigating claims the Premiership club broken regulations.

According to a British news programme, a Belgian police investigation has concluded that the Gunners allegedly made secret payments of Stg1million to Beveren football club.

Newsnight, which is screened by the BBC, say it understands that Belgian police have traced a mystery payment made to the Belgian minnows to the London club - Arsenal have denied making the payment.

According to the BBC website, Christian du Four, the Investigating Magistrate in the Flemish town of Dendermonde, told the Newsnight programme: "A company with no name wanted to invest a million pounds in the club. We thought it rather bizarre."

"Jean Marc Guillou who is the manager of Beveren has very close contacts with Arsene Wenger the coach of Arsenal and that is why they went ahead with the contract (to play friendly matches and loan out players)."

Beveren, who bring many African players into Europe, were apparently in financial difficulties when the payment was made in 2001 and after an investigation magistrates in Belgium told Newsnight that they found Arsenal were behind the money.

However, the club issued a statement late on Thursday evening which read:

"Arsenal Football Club is aware that BBC Newsnight is carrying a story this evening purporting to describe Arsenal's relationship with Belgian football club, Beveren.

"Arsenal does not normally make public its agreements with third parties. However, Arsenal can confirm that it has had a technical relationship with Beveren since 2001. This relationship has a number of benefits to both clubs such as providing a platform to share coaching methods and techniques as well as facilitating the option of players being loaned between the clubs.

"For example, during the course of the relationship, Arsenal players David Grondin, Liam Chilvers, John Halls and Graham Stack all spent successful loan periods at Beveren as did Emmanuel Eboue, who played in a number of trial matches with Arsenal whilst contracted to Beveren. Such was the latter player's success, Arsenal subsequently signed Eboue on a permanent basis."

The statement continued: "In addition, Arsenal confirms that it has never owned, directly or indirectly, any shares in Beveren or had any power whatsoever to influence its management or administration.

"It did in 2001 provide funds of 1,570,703 Euros by way of loan to a member of the consortium to assist in stabilising the finances of Beveren.

"At no time has anyone at Arsenal been contacted by any regulatory or investigatory body with respect to its relationship with Beveren.

"Arsenal and all its staff have acted properly throughout, in accordance with all applicable rules and regulations, and in the best interests of Beveren, Arsenal and the broader footballing community."
http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=reu-arsenal&prov=reuters&type=lgns

Arsenal deny wrongdoing after Belgian club probe

LONDON, June 1 (Reuters) - Arsenal have denied wrongdoing after being accused on Thursday of making secret payments to Belgian club Beveren.

BBC Two's Newsnight programme reported that a police probe in Belgium had concluded that the Premier League club, losing Champions League finalists this year, had paid Beveren 1 million pounds ($1.87 million).

It said world body FIFA were investigating whether Arsenal had breached rules concerning fair play and conflict of interest.

The North London club, in a statement to Newsnight, confirmed a technical relationship with Beveren since 2001 but denied controlling the club.

"Arsenal confirms that it has never owned, directly or indirectly, any shares in Beveren or had any power whatsoever to influence its management or administration," it said.

"It did in 2001 provide funds of 1,570,703 euros by way of a loan to a member of the consortium to assist in stabilising the finances of Beveren.

"At no time has anyone at Arsenal been contacted by any regulatory or investigatory body with respect to its relationship with Beveren," added the statement.

"Arsenal and all its staff have acted properly throughout, in accordance with all applicable rules and regulations, and in the best interests of Beveren, Arsenal and the broader footballing community."

Newsnight said the Belgian investigation was launched initially because the police suspected the Russian Mafia might be using Beveren to launder money. That was later ruled out.

The BBC programme said Beveren was used to bring Ivory Coast players, including Arsenal's Emmanuel Eboue, into Europe.
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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The clubs have indeed had an agreement ever since 2001 and Arsenal can say what they want, but it was very public. Doesn't mean it's all clean though.
 

Gill_juve

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May 29, 2006
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so it isnt just us:

Arsenal accused of 'secret payments'
By David Bond
(Filed: 02/06/2006)


Arsenal were at the centre of secret loans allegations last night after a police investigation unearthed evidence that the London club lent £1 million to a company involved in the takeover of Belgian club Beveren.


Transfer talk: Emmanuel Eboue
Although Arsenal have had a technical relationship with Beveren since 2001 they have in the past denied any financial involvement. The team have effectively been used as a nursery club by Arsenal with Emmanuel Eboue the most recent example of a player who impressed first in Belgium before being signed by the Premiership side.

But a BBC Newsnight investigation, screened last night, uncovered how Arsenal vice chairman David Dein loaned 12 million Belgian francs (around £200,000) to a company called NV Goal which went on to become a major shareholder in Beveren.

Newsnight claims that investigating magistrates in Belgium, who began probing the club amid fears - now discounted - that it was being used by the mafia to launder money, concluded that Arsenal secretly handed over £1 million. The company was then able to fund the takeover of Beveren.

They became suspicious after large numbers of players from Africa, particularly the Ivory Coast, began to dominate the club's first team. According to Newsnight, the club was used to bring cheap African players to Europe where they could gain experience and work permits before being sold on to bigger clubs for vast profits.

Arsenal last night admitted lending the money to the member of a consortium who used it to stabilise the finances of Beveren but denied any wrongdoing and insisted they had never owned any shares in the club.

Although Uefa have rules which prevent any club owners from owning more than 50 per cent in another club playing in the same competition, there are no FA, Fifa or Uefa rules which stop one club or club official lending money to another club or their directors.

However, the controversy is an embarrassment to a club which have always prided themselves on doing things by the book. And last night Fifa president Sepp Blatter turned up the pressure by calling on the Football Association to look into the Newsnight claims.

Blatter said: "Let Arsenal give the Football Association their report. It will be then be reported later to Fifa. But for the time being I am not in a position to make any comments about what punishments or sanctions should be taken against a club."

In a carefully worded statement, the club said: "Arsenal Football Club are aware that BBC Newsnight is carrying a story this evening purporting to describe Arsenal's relationship with Belgian football club, Beveren. Arsenal do not normally make public its agreements with third parties.

"However, Arsenal can confirm that we have had a technical relationship with Beveren since 2001. This relationship has a number of benefits to both clubs such as providing a platform to share coaching methods and techniques as well as facilitating the option of players being loaned between the clubs. For example, during the course of the relationship, Arsenal players David Grondin, Liam Chilvers, John Halls and Graham Stack all spent successful loan periods at Beveren as did Emmanuel Eboue, who played in a number of trial matches with Arsenal whilst contracted to Beveren. Such was the latter player's success, Arsenal subsequently signed Eboue on a permanent basis.

"In addition, Arsenal confirm that we have never owned, directly or indirectly, any shares in Beveren or had any power whatsoever to influence its management or administration. Arsenal did, in 2001, provide funds of 1,570,703 euros by way of loan to a member of a consortium who used the money to assist in stabilising the finances of Beveren. At no time has anyone at Arsenal been contacted by any regulatory or investigatory body with respect to its relationship with Beveren.

"Arsenal and all their staff have acted properly throughout, in accordance with all applicable rules and regulations, and in the best interests of Beveren, Arsenal and the broader footballing community."

A Uefa spokesman said they were powerless to act but that the recent independent review of European football would look to address the issues raised by the investigation. He added: "These are all issues which will need to be solved in the interests of the game because you can break no rule and no law but at the same time most fans would acknowledge that there is a problem here."

telegraph.co.uk
 
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    I hear Moggi has a lawyer who does housecalls in case you need him. :p
     

    mikhail

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    Jan 24, 2003
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    northbank said:
    no rules broken; nothing illegal taken place. Nonsense story from a nonsense source (the BBC is a joke).
    That's right, it's normal to use standard money laundering practices to hide that you're dumping money into another club.
     

    northbank

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    Mar 22, 2006
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    mikhail said:
    That's right, it's normal to use standard money laundering practices to hide that you're dumping money into another club.
    Indeed it is, but we didn't launder any money if you read the details.

    There is something more sinister in place; the voting for the FA board just happened the day after this 'exclusive' broke. That was after weeks of a smear campaign on Dein by various sources and funnily enough Dein didn't get re-elected. Classic political manouvre to remove him from his post.

    Not too bothered though, he should be concentrating on Arsenal anyway. :cool:

    I hear Moggi has a lawyer who does housecalls in case you need him.
    :D - it's okay, after our bung problem in the 90's we've got it covered.
     

    Geof

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    May 14, 2004
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    From what I understood from the Belgian media, is that Arsenal tried to buy over the Belgian club, Beveren, via 'Goal' a company owned by Jean-Marc Guillou.
    This practice (a club owning another one) is prohibited by FIFA.

    Jean-Marc Guillou seems to be the real murky guy in there I guess. If you don't know him, he's a French guy who started Football schools in Ivory Coast. He had an agreement with ASEC Abidjan, and SK Beveren, where 'his' players could play for some years and then be sold for big money.
    The best known players who passed through that system are Emmanuel Eboué (Arsenal), Yaya Touré, Romaric, Yapi-Yapo, Junior...
    Other players went through his academy without passing by Beveren:e.g. Kolo Touré (Arsenal) Aruna Dindane (Anderlecht).

    Wenger and JMG are great friends, and Arsène was quite interested in the project. They agreed that Arsenal would have an option on any Ivorian player that passed by Beveren (IIRC they used it once, on Eboué).

    What Arsenal gave JMG and/or Beveren is still unclear, and that's what this "scandal" is about.

    Meanwhile JMG and his puppet-coach have been fired from Beveren. Due to bad results and the lower quality of the Ivorians, the club decided to opt for "local palyers".
     

    Mr. Gol

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    Sep 15, 2004
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    I doubt this will cause any damage to Arsenal though. They will probably walk away with a fine, as they gained nothing major from this.
     

    Geof

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    Mr. Gol said:
    as they gained nothing major from this.
    Eboué and Touré came through that system. But I have no clue if there was anything dubious around these transfers.
     

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