Antonio Conte (132 Viewers)
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We can't know for sure, And I am just guessing. but at least it seems it wasn't something like this. for example Juve bought Ziegler in may (before arrival of Conte) but when Conte became coach he didn't want him.
I believe at that point something like that wasn't discussed yet even if as you say Conte was unofficially Juve's coach.
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About Conte not playing Ale,
I think it's much simpler than that. Conte likes versatile, hard fighting and full of running kind of players. probably why we saw a lot of Pepe and Giaccherini but no Elia and Krasic. Even some one as lazy as Vucinic runs a lot more than what he used to in this Juve (as he himself admitted). Conte's forwards play a big role on putting pressure on opponents midfielders so while I am not denying that Ale was better than most of our squad, he was just not the type that Conte needed. specially since we played a good part of season with 4-3-3.
I believe at that point something like that wasn't discussed yet even if as you say Conte was unofficially Juve's coach.
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About Conte not playing Ale,
I think it's much simpler than that. Conte likes versatile, hard fighting and full of running kind of players. probably why we saw a lot of Pepe and Giaccherini but no Elia and Krasic. Even some one as lazy as Vucinic runs a lot more than what he used to in this Juve (as he himself admitted). Conte's forwards play a big role on putting pressure on opponents midfielders so while I am not denying that Ale was better than most of our squad, he was just not the type that Conte needed. specially since we played a good part of season with 4-3-3.
Some media were playing with this idea in the spring actually
It would truly be a dream, i just wonder, if alex isnt to nice to be president. can he firmly defend juventus when besieged ?
Alex was the prototype gentleman afterall
Still, it would be so...perfect
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Compared to vidal and especially marchisio, or 99% of the players in his position, Pirlo doesnt run a fuck.
pre2009 alex, would allways play.
It would truly be a dream, i just wonder, if alex isnt to nice to be president. can he firmly defend juventus when besieged ?
Alex was the prototype gentleman afterall
Still, it would be so...perfect
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Compared to vidal and especially marchisio, or 99% of the players in his position, Pirlo doesnt run a fuck.
pre2009 alex, would allways play.
Yeah, unlike most of our team, pirlo is in constant movement when we are in possession to receive passes.
his defensive workrate is okay, but not near what most players in that area of the field have.
I dont want to pick on Pirlo, just want to make a point that when the talent is at such hights, they will play.
at least one of them. i remember at 2000-2002 del piero and totti couldnt be in the same lineup "cause none of them actively tracks back"
one of both allways playd
his defensive workrate is okay, but not near what most players in that area of the field have.
I dont want to pick on Pirlo, just want to make a point that when the talent is at such hights, they will play.
at least one of them. i remember at 2000-2002 del piero and totti couldnt be in the same lineup "cause none of them actively tracks back"
one of both allways playd
Not when Ale still wanted to stay here, he never complained, never came out in the Media to say more playing time. He came up big whenever we needed him. His technique, vision and leadership makes him more valuable to this team than someone like Bendtner.
He was forced out of the club for whatever reason, and i don't see him returning to the team any time soon, and to the people saying look at Nedved's case. Pavel is best freind with AA, they play pick up game together. Can't say the same Ale.
Shame tough that we treated the greatest player ever to play for this team and of the best to ever play this game this way. A black mark in our history.
He was forced out of the club for whatever reason, and i don't see him returning to the team any time soon, and to the people saying look at Nedved's case. Pavel is best freind with AA, they play pick up game together. Can't say the same Ale.
Shame tough that we treated the greatest player ever to play for this team and of the best to ever play this game this way. A black mark in our history.
I would say that more about how mobile he is compared to the other players rather than workrate.
Pirlo may have the energy and willingness to chase around and hassle opponents, but he isn't quick enough to do it, so it'd be pointless.
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Doesn't seem an unreasonable policy to me.
Having three players in your team who contribute almost nothing defensively makes it pretty tough to maintain balance.
Pirlo may have the energy and willingness to chase around and hassle opponents, but he isn't quick enough to do it, so it'd be pointless.
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Doesn't seem an unreasonable policy to me.
Having three players in your team who contribute almost nothing defensively makes it pretty tough to maintain balance.
The only real problem I have with Pirlo is that he makes us so completely susceptible to counter-attacks. I think that's why we played so conservatively against Shakhtar. Shakhtar is an enormously successful counter-attacking team with their quick Brazilians. Pirlo, playing as essentially the first guy in front of the defense is completely useless against a counter attack. He just has no shot to recover. It's just the trade-off you're going to have to deal with when you have a guy like him in the lineup.
It's not that he doesn't have the work rate, he just doesn't have the pace. I mean, if even one of Vidal or Marchisio gets caught up front, which is an easy thing to do, our defence is completely exposed centrally. And if Bonucci has to step up in front of the defence we're in trouble because he can't do it.
The 3-5-2 really is in place to slow our game down and make it more of a possession or counter attack game for us, not an up and down game like we had with the 4-3-3.
I do like the 3-5-2 but I'd like to see a 4-3-3 with Marchisio, Vidal and Asamoah all in the center. I'd like to see us try and go up and down some games without fear.
I wonder what would have happened if we went to a 4-3-3 with those horses in the middle against Shakhtar and just traded blows. I don't think their defence could have handled it. I think we would have won out.
It's not that he doesn't have the work rate, he just doesn't have the pace. I mean, if even one of Vidal or Marchisio gets caught up front, which is an easy thing to do, our defence is completely exposed centrally. And if Bonucci has to step up in front of the defence we're in trouble because he can't do it.
The 3-5-2 really is in place to slow our game down and make it more of a possession or counter attack game for us, not an up and down game like we had with the 4-3-3.
I do like the 3-5-2 but I'd like to see a 4-3-3 with Marchisio, Vidal and Asamoah all in the center. I'd like to see us try and go up and down some games without fear.
I wonder what would have happened if we went to a 4-3-3 with those horses in the middle against Shakhtar and just traded blows. I don't think their defence could have handled it. I think we would have won out.
He never complained because unlike the capello times, this last season was very special and difficult for him. He didnt wanted to bitch and moan and disturb the team that was in superb harmony and form.He knew what was coming and forcefully had to accept it, being the captain he also had to set an example.
He had more of a main role when he was being benched time after time by capello, and he was in all his right to moan, as he still was "del piero". But after the incident of the blank contract, and agnelli´s message to the media, he knew he was a dire position and instead opted to not disrupt and just let things be.
He sucked it like a man this time..
He had more of a main role when he was being benched time after time by capello, and he was in all his right to moan, as he still was "del piero". But after the incident of the blank contract, and agnelli´s message to the media, he knew he was a dire position and instead opted to not disrupt and just let things be.
He sucked it like a man this time..