Andrea "Il Bruco Brutto" Agnelli (58 Viewers)

[sgjuveboy]

I think UEFA can do that with current format of UCL and EURO cups as the provided clubs for ESL
Lets say this ESL is consist of 20 clubs, then the inaugurated of ESL must have top 16 UCL clubs (top 16 round) from previous UCL and top 4 (semifinalist) from previous EURO cup

In real football match (90 minutes), all players eligible through the list submitted for 30 players (long league need more players)
Then ESL become the Current UCL (and to enter only from UCL and EURO Cup)
To cover the more games of domestic and UCL , then the 5 subs is become permanent by UEFA circa FIFA
But, it will become of the form 3 normal subs like now +2 U23 players subbed in, this will make clubs to spend more to get better U23 players to maximize their subs used . Hence improvement for young players

Then after that will be there are 6 clubs that relegated each season from ESL, but they still can play in UCL or Euro if they reach that position through their domestic position. So UCL will be 2nd top continent comp and Euro Cup will be 3rd top (but cannot if their nations quota is fulfilled by another club in ESL, read why need nations quota below). This quota will come from UEFA coefficient ranking
Another option is 10 clubs relegated from ESL and the promoted is 8 from UCL (quarter finalist) and 2 from European League (finalist)
With this will become more circulation and makes every league more competitive

And for ESL promotion for next season after will be top 4(semifinalist from UCL) and top 2 (finalist from EURO)
And the other 14 club tops will keep their position in ESL that will bring the best $$$

But while everything seems great and that is meritocracy fulfilled to the max. This will become disaster with this setup
Because we can see every club from EPL keep getting promoted to ESL year by year then ESL becoming EPL++

How to overcome that is the limitation of the total club of country play in Europe(quota), so lets say there is 6 England clubs play in ESL, then only 1 other club will play in UCL and no England club played in EURO cup, because the quota of England is 7 clubs to compete in Europe

Another problem is UCL becoming less competitive and Euro Cup even more less competitive and the money will go through ESL (UCL money+), UCL become EURO+ (less than current UCL Money) , then EURO become EURO CUP II + in terms of money

The 12 founding club is not necessarily becoming the founder and fix participant but if they can keep their performance they will always be in ESL
I think top club like Real, Barca, Juve, City, MU,PSG,Inter who have the most resources will always stay in the league

I feel like in order to take football to the next level, fans should be able to participate in the game.

All ESL footballers should do an instagram or Tiktok promo with one of China social media influencers.

And also. Remove VAR. Key decisions like dubious penalty should be an online voting system by fans who pay. Sure it can take some minutes but VAR is already slowing the game now anyway. Can you imagine the kind of money such a game can generate?

Football belongs to everyone so let everyone have a say. Some may see it as unfair but having a Colombian drug/rapist get bribed by Korea vs Italy is more unfair.

 

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[rainhard]

I feel like in order to take football to the next level, fans should be able to participate in the game. Remove VAR. Key decisions like dubious penalty should be an online voting system by fans who pay. Sure it can take some minutes but VAR is already slowing the game now anyway. Can you imagine the kind of money a game can generate?

Football belongs to everyone so let everyone have a say. Some may see it as unfair but having a Colombian drug/rapist get bribed by Korea vs Italy is more unfair.

That is good idea in terms of interactive but that will have big tendency to cheat that will affect the betting system mostly
The taker (betting house will play in the voting too with ganbler staked money to make sure they will win the vote and at least take some of the money in the process)

 

[Vlad]

Every dubious call if were to play against Real, United, would go their way, since they have more fans. Stop trolling. Voting by fans to decide a penalty call

 

[sgjuveboy]

That is good idea in terms of interactive but that will have big tendency to cheat that will affect the betting system mostly
The taker (betting house will play in the voting too with betters staked money to make sure they will win the vote)

Who cares. As if football isn’t corrupted already. At least in his way, the organizing clubs get all the money. Not some old kid-molesting dinosaurs on fifa or uefa

 

[rainhard]

Every dubious call if were to play against Real, United, would go their way, since they have more fans. Stop trolling. Voting by fans to decide a penalty call

Maybe there will be a new job called angel voter to involved in this thing
This kind of voter is like angel so they dont lie and they will only vote the truth what they saw in the game

 

[sgjuveboy]

Every dubious call if were to play against Real, United, would go their way, since they have more fans. Stop trolling. Voting by fans to decide a penalty call

Come on. This is where social media advertising step in. If a club can get themselves on XiaoHongShu platform and make meaningful interaction with Chinese fans, it can easily get more fan base than Real Madrid.

And with Chinese spending power, they will pump tons of money to vote and make sure their supported club wins the calls vs Madrid etc.

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Maybe there will be a new job called angel voter to involved in this thing
This kind of voter is like angel so they dont lie and they will only vote the truth what they saw in the game

Bloody great idea my friend. See, ESL could really create more jobs. And then, fans also get to grade the performance of these angel voters after each game to decide if they stay or get kicked out. Of course, again, only paying viewers get to vote.

 

[rainhard]

Come on. This is where social media advertising step in. If a club can get themselves on XiaoHongShu platform and make meaningful interaction with Chinese fans, it can easily get more fan base than Real Madrid.

And with Chinese spending power, they will pump tons of money to vote and make sure their supported club wins the calls vs Madrid etc.

Circulated money, this will remove the fair play and who have the big voice is the winner
This is bad for football this kind of thing that kill football

Another thing that killed football ? Bribed referee, because the briber only need to paid this 1 voter to represent potential 7 billions voter in the world
Match fixing

 

[Vlad]

These trolls

 

[sgjuveboy]

Circulated money, this will remove the fair play and who have the big voice is the winner
This is bad for football this kind of thing that kill football

Another thing that killed football ? Bribed referee, because the briber only need to paid this 1 voter to represent potential 7 billions voter in the world
Match fixing

Nah man. This makes football more controversial, more drama. More adrenaline rush! Oh and we also need to train the players to me more showy and trash talk each other before game.

Look at the rise of MMA. A bloody rigged competition format that lacks fairness. But skyrocketed because of how trashy the fighters talk.

 

[rainhard]

These trolls

Once upon a time in Indonesia, peoples laughed to 1 man that put water in the plastic bottle and sell it with the brand AQUA
Now his company already sold to Danone (becoming Danone Aqua) and no one laugh to him anymore

That is the purpose of idea, that is that differentiate us human to animals

 

[sgjuveboy]

Once upon a time in Indonesia, peoples laughed to 1 man that put water in the plastic bottle and sell it with the brand AQUA
Now his company already sold to Danone (becoming Danone Aqua) and no one laugh to him anymore

That is the purpose of idea, that is that differentiate us human to animals

Thanks for saying that mate. But you really didn’t have to. Tuz is filled with commoners who still believed that Pele scored as many goals as their grandfathers say.

 

[rainhard]

Thanks for saying that mate. But you really didn’t have to. Tuz is filled with commoners who still believed that Pele scored as many goals as their grandfathers say.

I believe in Pele's because he can win World Cup when he is 18, and more of that he win it 3 times. Something that even the duo GOAT can't do in their peak let alone when they are 18. but yes different era different story

 

[U Picciriddu]

Once upon a time in Indonesia, peoples laughed to 1 man that put water in the plastic bottle and sell it with the brand AQUA
Now his company already sold to Danone (becoming Danone Aqua) and no one laugh to him anymore

That is the purpose of idea, that is that differentiate us human to animals

He’s a great mind, no doubt. Talent is there

 

[Vlad]

Sometimes it can be tough to tell the trolls from the retards

Let me help u:

Once upon a time in Indonesia, peoples laughed to 1 man that put water in the plastic bottle and sell it with the brand AQUA
Now his company already sold to Danone (becoming Danone Aqua) and no one laugh to him anymore

That is the purpose of idea, that is that differentiate us human to animals

retard

Thanks for saying that mate. But you really didn’t have to. Tuz is filled with commoners who still believed that Pele scored as many goals as their grandfathers say.

troll

 

[campionesidd]

Sometimes it can be tough to tell the trolls from the retards

He is both.

 

[rainhard]

Let me help u:
retard
troll

When someone pointed to another person something he must remember 1 finger point to another person but 4 fingers pointed for him
So if I am retard and sgjuveboy is troll then it means Vlad is 4 times retard and troll

And one of the culture within Javanese people (an island in Indonesia), they pointed another person using their thumbs, that will be more polite

 

[sgjuveboy]

When someone pointed to another person something he must remember 1 finger point to another person but 4 fingers pointed for him
So if I am retard and sgjuveboy is troll then it means Vlad is 4 times retard and troll

And one of the culture within Javanese people (an island in Indonesia), they pointed another person using their thumbs, that will be more polite

You are correct my friend. I actually do that when I work in Malaysia and
Indonesia, two very up and coming nations that is potentially emerging into key players in South Asia. Further prove that ESL should be located in Asia. Europe, as much as it being an important part of football history, can no longer afford investing and watching quality football.

 

[zizinho]

Every dubious call if were to play against Real, United, would go their way, since they have more fans. Stop trolling. Voting by fans to decide a penalty call

There is no need to play actually. Just run out to the pitch and pass the ball around between the teams, while the fan voting is on. Then the poll decides the winner

 

[sgjuveboy]

Every dubious call if were to play against Real, United, would go their way, since they have more fans. Stop trolling. Voting by fans to decide a penalty call

Nah come on... that is a rotten defeatist mindset. United and Madrid have more fans simply because of their history. In terms of Chinese/Indian fans engagement, they have did nothing too impactful.

If a club like Juve could have a presence on douyu.com or similar platforms and talk about how Chinese values actually run deep in the club, we could easily convert the whole nation of fans to black and white. With that kind of fan base money, we can buy the whole Madrid or Manchester.

 

[Mark]

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