Andrea "Il Bruco Brutto" Agnelli (70 Viewers)

[ALC]

But that is about the meaning, Champions League should be a league that only consist of Champions not runner up, 3rd places or even 4th places

Pure only champions, so it become elitist and to achieve that you can enter if you are the champions of domestic league.

The only problem is, #20 country Champions is not as best as runner up for top 5 country. But we can see that as incentives for small country to thrive their league with more tv money coming from this league.

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I agree that that would be the best way to do it, even though we are too far gone from a championship like that.

I thought you meant that was Agnelli’s plan.

 

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[Elvin]

Ok just to clarify: when I said "AA deserves this", I didn't mean because he's a shitty person or a bad executive; but he deserves it for his bad phrasing.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

How does a competition's format affect your feelings toward Juve tho?

Pretty simple. If I don't care about the league itself, then how am I going to care about Juve playing in it?
If you lose interest in the entire format, surely that's the end of it?

- and there's agnelli's strategy which is clear since day 1: make juventus rejoin the european elite not only on the pitch, but also financially. since serie a is dogshit from so many aspects (stadiums, willingness to change, ownership structure, racism, conspiracy theories everywhere, criminal ultras, that's already a too long list) and it's unlikely that the situation would change in the foreseeable future, so it only makes sense for him to use his eca office to push his ideas. personally, i find the idea of an elite european league repulsive, i'm already more detached from jj that i ever was since i started rooting for the club, i hate modern plastic football with a passion, but i get agnelli's reasoning to push for the superleague. he's got no other choice basically, at least not one i'm aware of.

Hmm, I don't think we really disagree all that much.

As I probably already mentioned: I too understand why he's doing it, but I personally detest the idea of it. But that's entirely personal, as you'll see in my reply to Elvin: if I'm going to have to choose between watching a Superleague (regardless even of Juve being in it) or not watching high level football at all, then good riddance & I'll just stick to my local club.

From what I gather, we're not the only ones getting more & more detached from the club though. It looks like a lot of the traditional & local fans are losing interest.

 

[Elvin]

Pretty simple. If I don't care about the league itself, then how am I going to care about Juve playing in it?
If you lose interest in the entire format, surely that's the end of it?



Hmm, I don't think we really disagree all that much.

As I probably already mentioned: I too understand why he's doing it, but I personally detest the idea of it. But that's entirely personal, as you'll see in my reply to Elvin: if I'm going to have to choose between watching a Superleague (regardless even of Juve being in it) or not watching high level football at all, then good riddance & I'll just stick to my local club.

From what I gather, we're not the only ones getting more & more detached from the club though. It looks like a lot of the traditional & local fans are losing interest.

On the contrary, I see more buzz about Juve than anytime before.

 

[Vlad]

Did you care about Serie b? I couldnt care less for it, but still followed Juve, it was pretty exciting actually. When I think about, I had more fun then, than watching our game this season. For me the league we compete in is irrelevant but to each his own.

 

[Elvin]

Did you care about Serie b? I didnt carw less for it, but still followed Juve, it was pretty exciting actually. When I think about, I had more fun then, than watching our game this season. For me the league we compete in is irrelevant but to each his own.

I know right, it's about the name, colors, and the feeling of sticking it to the haters. And we will always have haters!

 

[Vlad]

I know right, it's about the name, colors, and the feeling of sticking it to the haters. And we will always have haters!

Just hearing the name Juventus brings chills down my spine. A lot has happened over the 25 years, school, college, marriage, kid, but those 2 hours over the weekend when there is a game on, I will always try to find time.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

On the contrary, I see more buzz about Juve than anytime before.

Definitely on social media, the CR7 hype is strong.

Did you care about Serie b? I couldnt care less for it, but still followed Juve, it was pretty exciting actually. When I think about, I had more fun then, than watching our game this season. For me the league we compete in is irrelevant but to each his own.

Yes, I did. Very much. I even attended 2 games that season.

 

[Elvin]

Definitely on social media, the CR7 hype is strong.




Yes, I did. Very much. I even attended 2 games that season.

and you will follow Super League as well. You're just being overdramatic ))

 

[Buck Fuddy]

and you will follow Super League as well. You're just being overdramatic ))

Nah, I can assure you I will not.
I've already been losing interest the last 18 or so months. A Super League would just be the final nail in the coffin

 

[Elvin]

Nah, I can assure you I will not.
I've already been losing interest the last 18 or so months. A Super League would just be the final nail in the coffin

We'll see.

 

[JCK]

So by that league, how do other teams get in?

you get the champions from the main countries but what about teams like Leicester, Atalanta, etc?

The idea is not to have other teams in, sort of like US sports.

 

[Elvin]

Juventus would benefit the most from it. No ifs or buts about it.

If you love Juve more than football (sounds weird I know), you'd be for the idea.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Super League would be so fucking boring

Aside from never winning anything and knockout football being 10x more exciting, if every game is a big game then eventually the big game feel dies.

Fuck that.

 

[ALC]

The idea is not to have other teams in, sort of like US sports.

exactly, which is why Agnelli deserves shit for suggesting it

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Not if you have 20 games a year per team instead of 60, the main problem with football now is how much of it is constantly being played, it dilutes it on so many levels.

 

[ALC]

Juventus would benefit the most from it. No ifs or buts about it.

If you love Juve more than football (sounds weird I know), you'd be for the idea.

I don’t see how it’s possible to love a football club more than the club itself. If Juve were to get disbanded right now, we’d still watch football.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I don’t see how it’s possible to love a football club more than the club itself. If Juve were to get disbanded right now, we’d still watch football.

Not me

Except maybe Italy at the World Cup

 

[JUVEMOOD]

Not me

Except maybe Italy at the World Cup

Same here
Maybe occasionally i will watch a game here and there


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[Juventinoo]

Why not super league ...this is the only way we can compete financially with the big guns ....the only way ....

another note: watching the big clubs frequently is not boring ....because these matches will never be predictable ....

watching Barca, for example, creating a circus to beat Getafe like 5 - 1 ...is boring to me ...

the only side effect ... other leagues will die subsequently ... if EPL teams join the superleague ...

this will hurt the EPL market pool a lot .... why TV broadcasters will pay for City vs Vila for example big chunk of money then ...


Last ...Superleague will never happen .....Real , Barca and Juve all in love with the idea ...it's Perez idea before AA ....

but EPL power teams ..they will not accept such ....unless they feel the current EPL market pool is not good enough anymore for them ....

till that date ..we can really discuss such an idea ...