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acmilan

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Nov 8, 2005
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2014 Pats set the record for the youngest SB-winning team in history - average roster age of 25.2 years; well below the 2013 Seahawks' 26.5 (2nd youngest, iirc).

Conclusion - Brady beat the LOB with a kindergarten as a supporting cast :D
 

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Oct 28, 2010
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I'm with acmilan here. League is a lot more competitive nowadays and having reached the SuperBowl in 6 out of the last 14 years and winning it in 4 of those is pretty crazy. They didn't deserve the one in 2004 tho, got lucky.
 

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Feb 9, 2013
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Who gives a fuck about Brady. Of course his stats are better. Acmilan's list is retarded. It doesn't take into account at all the massive changes in rules to favour QBs.

Montana played 4 perfect SB games. I showed the stats. Montana > Brady in SBs and it isn't even close. Like miles and miles better. Brady performed one of the biggest choke jobs in NFL history against the wild card Giants by putting up 14 points with Moss and Welker.

If Montana played today his stats would be infinitely better than they were with the current rules. Obviously. Hence the reason all the passing records are being shattered and you have a half a dozen QBs who throw 4500 yards plus and over 35 TDs a season.

Montana over Brady any day of the week, and it's not particularly close.

Only a Pats homer like Acmilan and a Brady worshipper like X would think that list of stats suggests Brady over Montana. Especially in the playoffs :rofl:

Aside from that, just like Brady, Montana was the 2nd-3rd best regular season QB of his era. And by far the best playoff QB. So in that regard, they are almost identical. But going by statistics across eras. Talk about moronic. What's funnier is that Montana's SB stats are so so so so much better than Brady's, even in a league that was far less QB friendly.
 

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I'm with acmilan here. League is a lot more competitive nowadays and having reached the SuperBowl in 6 out of the last 14 years and winning it in 4 of those is pretty crazy. They didn't deserve the one in 2004 tho, got lucky.
QB and attacking players in general have an easier time now though.
 

Post Ironic

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QBs throw far less interceptions today because of rules favouring WRs. The physicality that was previously allowed on the part of DBs made it far easier for defenders to gain an advantage.
 

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Brady was given a super bowl MVP for throwing 16/27 for 145 yards and 1 TD. Talk about pathetic standards. HAHAHA. The Pats were out gained in that game 427 - 267 yds by the Rams. The defence won the Pats that game. That's just about the weakest SB MVP performance ever. You have to give that to either VInatieri for kicking a 48 yard fg to win the game, or to Ty Law for his int return for a TD, and his great performance overall.

Brady was awful in both Super Bowls against New York. In 2 games a total of 3 passing TDs, 1 interception, 1 fumble, 1 safety taken, were massive chokes when looking at the seasons he was coming off of. Especially considering those "fantastic" Pats offences put up a total of 14 and 17 points in those 2 games. Choke..

Brady was good against the Eagles. Not great, but solid game, and only turned the ball over once on a fumble, when he screwed up a fake handoff. He threw two touchdowns on 23-33 for 236 yards, which is solid. But again, it was the defence that won them that game by forcing 4 turnovers, including 3 interceptions of McNabb. I would have given the MVP to Rodney Harrison instead of Deion Branch.

Brady's one fantastic Super Bowl performance was against the Panthers. And he was clear MVP of that game. 32/48 for 354 yards, 3 tds 1 int. Aside from the int, he was brilliant.

This past Superbowl he was very good. But he also made some very poor throws, and that first interception that left 7 points behind, was an absolutely appalling decision on his part. However, he put the Pats in a position to win with some very clutch play in the 4th quarter and on the whole, it was a good performance, even considering the bad turnovers. Because of the nature of the last second interception by Butler, and how it basically won the game for the Pats, in what looked like a sure last second touchdown and a loss, I would have given Butler the MVP, even if that was his only play all game. It was literally, a game-winning play, in a game that was probably a 95% certainty loss at that point.

Anyways, Brady has played 6 superbowls, and has had 1 fantastic showing (against Carolina), 2 good showings (vs Eagles and Seahawks), 1 average showing (against Rams), and two poor showings (against the Giants)...

Montana had his first super bowl against the Bengals where it was a 1 passing td, 1 rushing td, 157 yd performance in a game that was won by the defence. After that, he had three perfect super bowl performances. 331 yards, 3 passing tds, 1 rushing td and 59 rushing yards against the Dolphins. 357 yards and 2 passing tds against the Bengals. And 5 passing tds and 297 yds on 22/29 passing against the Broncos for a 147.6 passer rating in what was the most dominant QB performance in a super bowl ever. He had over a 115 passer rating in all 3 of his last Super Bowls and a 100 rating in the first. He was the perfect big game QB, and no one since has come even close.

His Super Bowl passer rating of 127.8 will never be broken, fuck, no one will ever even come within 10 points of it. Or at least among QBs that play in more than two SBs. Brady's for comparison, is 95.3, which is good, but not great. Among QBs with 3 or more SB appearances it is 6th all time behind Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, Warner, Staubach.

Montana in Super Bowls also beat NFL MVPs Ken Anderson, Boomer Esiason, Dan Marino each in their respective MVP season, and also beat former NFL MVP and future SB MVP John Elway in the other. Talk about impressive QBs on the other side.

Brady beat Warner, although he did very little that game, the D won for him. He lost to Eli Manning twice :rofl:, he beat Russell Wilson, Donovan McNabb, and Jake Delhomme. The signal callers Brady and the Pats played against were nowhere near the same quality that Montana and the 49ers faced.

Montana also led the single greatest and most clutch drive in NFL history. 92 yards against the Bengals in Super Bowl XXIII for the game winning 10 Yard TD pass with 30 seconds left, to John Taylor. Seriously, Joe Cool is the greatest playoff and SB QB of all time and it's not even close. In his '88-'89 repeat with the 49ers, he threw 123/171 (70%) for 1623 Yds (271/game), 9.5 YPA, 19 TD passes and 1 interception in 6 games. 19 tds to 1 interception over 2 full playoffs. The NFL has never, and will never see anything like it again.

Brady might equal Montana on the strength of better regular season stats... but part of that is the pass-whacky era, so it's hard to give full points to the difference there.

Joe Cool. Watch his 4 superbowls and try to tell me that any QB has even come close in terms of SB performances. I'll laugh if you do.

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I'm with acmilan here. League is a lot more competitive nowadays and having reached the SuperBowl in 6 out of the last 14 years and winning it in 4 of those is pretty crazy. They didn't deserve the one in 2004 tho, got lucky.
This isn't true at all. It's a complete fallacy really. There have been 8 different Super Bowl winners since Brady's first season of 2001. In Montana's career from 79-94 there were 7 different Super Bowl winners. The league isn't more competitive at all. And the Pats play in the biggest joke of a division in the NFL, which helps them gain home-field advantage almost every year in the playoffs.

Also, Montana and the 49ers had to contend with the great 80s/early 90s NFC teams like the Bears, Redskins and Giants in the NFC all trying to get the SB each year... The Redskins won 3 SBs, the Giants 2, and the Bears 1. The NFC was a war zone in the Montana era.
 

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