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Exactly what i dont understand either

yep. Messi choked away multiple WCs and Copas for his NT (amongst most talent stacked in the world), during majority of these he was considered the best player in the world at that point. Ronaldo atleast has the excuse of a weaker NT to play for, but his early teams were also stacked (Figo...

Zidane is better individually but these 2 achieved more, amongst other things because of super teams built to their strengths and playing in a more offense focused era of football

if CR isnt, then Messi isnt either. he lost too much with the NT when he had top players all around him