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In terms of overall quality. But clearly there's a lot of tinkering to do to get this new-look side on the right track again. Some degree of re-invention and finding a new identity will be absolutely necessary, and that takes time.

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I think CL qualification will probably be a struggle for us. But the quality in Serie A isn't there yet to make that impossible. For all the changes we're making, in a more competitive league, we could have just Liverpooled ourselves.

36 to go.

Always better to go the Inter route and fire four coaches in a season and keep destabilizing the team with more desperation transfers hoping the churn helps build an organized side. :tup:

Dude, these are professional footballers -- most of whom have won championships before. They're pissed because they know they haven't figured themselves out yet and are clearly underachieving until they do. That's good and natural. If I were in their shoes, I too would be pissed -- at myself, at...

IMO, more transfers at this point will make this worse in the short term.

Now? How can you field Pogba, Sturaro and Padoin and try to compare that with any 3 of Pogba, Pirlo, Marchisio, and Vidal? Of course it's gonna suck.

Time for some whine :wine:

:lol: Tuz.

A loss for Juve but a major win for the development of our future Messi. :D

I see a draw.