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  1. swag

    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Wow. A rare interesting thing in the Huff Post. I particularly liked:
  2. swag

    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    I guess what I don't get is that there is a clear pietistic Islamic tradition of depicting the Prophet, e.g.: http://www.faithstreet.com/onfaith/2010/05/06/why-islam-does-not-ban-images-of-the-prophet/2383 So from an outsider's perspective, it comes off as a bit of historical revisionism and...
  3. swag

    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    They were primarily meant as a kick in the balls to Muslims who would want to shoot them for posting those cartoons. The art of trolling fails when the trolling no longer has its desired response. Indignation wasn't enough for Charlie Hebdo to motivate the trolling, which is why moderate...
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Did you read what Chompers wrote about MH17? Same stuff...
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    I watch Al Jazeera America here. I'm probably on a watch list for that.
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Good article :tup: It also exposes how dangerous religious beliefs can be when they must extend universally to people well outside of their culture and social circles. One of the things that surprised me in learning about how the Mormons from Utah funded California's Proposition 8 campaign to...
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Supposedly ISIS is going operational with overseas terrorism. This rivalry with AQAP is ridonkulous.
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    What a douche. And I don't mean that in the French way.
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    That should definitely include the Hasidic Jews of NY. They pretty much live like "fuck your country and laws".
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Here's my ignorant question for today... How can you even tell when a depiction is of Muhammad and not just some random Arab? That clearly seems subject to stated intent or fuzzy interpretation, because if no images of Muhammad are allowed ... how does anyone know what he's supposed to look...
  11. swag

    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    I got that much. What I didn't get is why expressing that would suddenly have the French police up his butt.
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    I clearly need more details. The "I am Charlie Coulibaly" thing and what happened after doesn't make sense to me.
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Oh, I think they're masking some of their real feelings, most definitely, and they aren't very pleasant. They are seriously taking the piss at any opportunity. That much is in their DNA. The thing about issues regarding public liberties is that the people who force decisions about boundaries of...
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    I didn't see the press conference. I wouldn't be surprised if those guys masturbated at all meetings. But you had to have considered that in their own arrogance, they think they are well in the right in their actions. That within a large Western culture in this modern era (they are not...
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    That sucks. But it's not unheard of. People will hoist their expectations on you of choices in religion, race, sexual orientation, etc that suit them - as if they could care less about you. But there's where you have to draw a line about what you are willing to accept and what you're not willing...
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    A crime against the state is a crime against the state. Policemen were killed, tons of national money went into the hunt, etc. The events were far bigger than any one group of victims to dismiss charges. So yes, they don't have any legal power for that. That said, every person has the power to...
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    I think they absolutely mean the terrorists. That's why it's radical. Forgiveness means nothing if you've suffered nothing. How could it then be all Muslims? That is what would make absolutely no sense because they've done nothing. It's perhaps a way of saying that they know the terrorists are...
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    I don't buy that for one minute. Holy wars are people justifying their actions and deeds with divine inspiration. It's rarely the other way around. Just look up David Koresh. A death cult is a death cult, and it should be treated as such. Religion is just finding the right words and...
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    The great irony being that it was the Muslims who taught all the Westerners math, geometry, astronomy, physics, architecture, engineering, medicine ... not to mention how to make and eat decent food, how to make coffee and wine, etc.
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    Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    When I first became aware of Mandela, it was more of him as a token symbol and I was highly skeptical. While I have strong liberal tendencies at heart, I've also seen the folly of some liberals making saints out of the likes of Mumia Abu-Jamal. So when Mandela was first released, he toured the...