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You can credit me with retitling the 65% answer right after this poll was started. :D

Thread title updated accordingly. :pado:

That's partly because of crap teams in the domestic cup. Same is happening in England.

Already a thread: http://forum.juventuz.com/showthread.php?32197-4th-place-possible-or-not I'd like to close as a dupe, except the poll is closed in the original thread. :(