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  1. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    I've relatively little interest in history, but I have read the book, doesn't that give me a good basis to discuss whether the book could have been a reason behind a war? I have started to doubt whether you have read it, since You still haven't provided any specific verses of the Bible in...
  2. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    No one in the Crusades were interpreting Bible, it was their own view of what God would want, the reason you can't back it up with Bible verses found on internet or wherever is because there aren't, to my knowledge there aren't Bible verses that would support Crusades or could be interpreted...
  3. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Until you can tell me the exact words of the Bible that caused Crusades I'll continue to think that the root cause for Crusades wasn't what is written in the Bible but rather the ego of few and sheepness of many.
  4. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    name me two things that would really offend such a large group of people all at once the world isnt a democratic society and you don't seem to be open to discussion about restricting free speech to ensure the safety of society
  5. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    there's only a handful of things in this world that could gravely insult around 2.2 billion people at the same time, surely your political belief and feelings ain't that important
  6. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Crusades where not about bible teachings, if it was, could you please point out a commandment from God or at least something close from the actual book?
  7. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    attack on an abortion clinic is not exactly a holy war, even if the attackers would love to think so. Regarding Breivik and him being a Christian I'll quote his manifesto: "I'm not going to pretend I'm a very religious person, as that would be a lie. I've always been very pragmatic and...
  8. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    it's a rather large stretch from the attacks being with an Islam motivation and people claiming that the teachings of the Bible can cause the same problems if interpreted radically.
  9. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Apart from attacks on abortion clinics I didn't find any examples of Christian terrorism there.
  10. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    It was kinda established before in this discussion that pretty much until Martin Luther and later larger parts of the church people had limited access to the Bible since not everyone knew latin or even how to read anything, so they where relying heavily on the head of the church. I'd call that...
  11. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    When was the last holy war where someone killed hiding behind the bible? And pardon me for stupid question, what would be the other way around here? Justifying divine inspiration with war? Didn't get that one.
  12. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Well I think the disagreement comes from our definitions of christians which is bound to be different since you see it from an atheist standpoint while I consider myself a christian, I think that the church of Christ as defined in the Bible has way less participants than the sum of all the...
  13. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    What I am trying to say is that if You have read whole Bible and You are not an idiot, no one will be able to convince You that is ok to slaughter another person in Christs name, the book itself isn't open to interpretation if we speak about radical violence, nowadays it simply wouldn't be...
  14. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    They obviously had different motives than truly understanding and putting in practice God's word. You can kill and claim You did it in Winnie Pooh's name, but that doesn't mean the book instructs You to do so.
  15. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Ok, that clarifies it :D But I disagree with Paul having a particularly negative attitude against prostitutes, he warns against using their services as sex out of marriage is obviously a sin, maybe I need to re read some letters, but if you refer to Corinthians, then I don't see anything...
  16. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    As a Christian I agree that Bible is not as open to interpretation as PostIronic states and as a whole it clearly is against physical or any other kind of violence, there's no such thing as killing in Christs name. If you can, please elaborate on Paul justifying violence, egoistic actions and...
  17. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Well unlike You I don't think democracy without restrictions and exceptions is any good.
  18. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    At times a bad joke about a recent tragic loss is more violent than a kick in the balls don't you think?
  19. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    Personally I wouldn't be happy if my favorite news pages would show these paintings and I'd consider not reading these websites anymore. I wouldn't advocate a formal punishment for satire, but I'd salute anyone who'd kick the author in the balls.
  20. Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07

    no you couldn't - - - Updated - - - Would it be fine if a cartoon was made about the recent killings? Would you advocate freedom of speech if a family member of one of the victims got the author of these hypothetical paintings in the hospital?