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and I was happy that that pleasure would be mine (alone) :down:

Paul,I understand you very well..I got your point..and I agree with this post, like I said before every team need this "luck".we agree on this.. But my question was,I want to know the reason of your opinion about Juve of not winning CL..since we agree that juve's squad is huge enough or better...

let me do that for you guys..;) dear mr.dumbass: if a team in CL finished 3rd in group stages,he will be knocked out of CL and transferd to Uefa cup..and that chance is high for Villareal.you got it?

that could happen to any team too,we have "equal" possibilty of luck like each team,yes we could be unlucky for example if both vieria and Emerson injured for months,we will struggle then,it could happen for Milan too for example,if shevchenko and Gilardino got injured.. IMO we can't think for...

well if u call all those things Luck, then i agree with you..but i still i don't understand why u said : "Of course we can... But will we ? Personally i think not this year" and this "As for the cl, as i said i dont think we will win... i would hope we will get to the quarters or better...

it's not about luck,every team in cl can win it..and every year we have that potential with our squad to win it..we have better squad than last year's liverpool and other year's porto and monaco..so y not, we can