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  1. mnementh

    Pele, Maradona and..Zidane?

    As to the WC's, When we say "lead" I think it's down to statistics. People say Maradona and Baggio led their teams to the final because of their goals. They can talk about their performance but it's surely only the goals in the end. If not goals, then it's assists. I don't think Zidane had those...
  2. mnementh

    Pele, Maradona and..Zidane?

    this I liked to hear ! :D btw, Del Piero once said that it's not true and in his opinion Argentina had a great squad. I still don't see what was great about zidane up to the 98 final (during the tournament), especially that he missed some matches and failed to score. It wasn't like he was...
  3. mnementh

    Pele, Maradona and..Zidane?

    You were talking about greatest football players, not about players in a particular position if I understand right. So being a forward/offensive midfielder is not that relevant. What I am not convinced is what differenae Zidane and what makes him better than others ? I think it's a personal...
  4. mnementh

    Pele, Maradona and..Zidane?

    ok... that's a legitimate criteria but one doesn't have to agree with choosing that paramater.
  5. mnementh

    Pele, Maradona and..Zidane?

    so del piero needed to go and stand in the goal as a keeper ? what you say doesn't make sense. watch the many goals from nedved from the last campaigns too, I didn't see anything disappear. I rarely see Zidane scoring. yes, ok. not his fault then. they were pretty ordinary goals if you ask me...
  6. mnementh

    Pele, Maradona and..Zidane?

    good for him. Like I said, if he wins this WC, he can be considered as big as Pele maybe... who has won 3 WC's and scored in 4 of them !!! Zidane only scored in that final, did shite in 2002 (injured partly) and now there's here. If anything, it's premature to the extreme. The 98 french team was...
  7. mnementh

    Pele, Maradona and..Zidane?

    stop right there. Del Piero scored a much better goal, in backheel, as a SUB , in one of those finals where players didn't "shopw up". Not impressed. Del Piero's volley against Monaco was better too :) Zizuuuuuuuu has more finnesse and all, but Nedved is as technical as they come - sublime...
  8. mnementh

    Pele, Maradona and..Zidane?

    Of course he's decisive in big games. Some big games. And some he's not. One can't escape the fact that before the 98 WC final, he was deemed as a bit of a loser and a choker in big games after losing in 3 consecutive european finals. Also in WC he was criticized a lot for that foul and people...
  9. mnementh

    Pele, Maradona and..Zidane?

    what the *** does that mean ? Juve won the CL in 96, he came and didn't win in 97 and 98 (after failing the uefa cup final himself in 95). that's just not true and wishful thinking. So it's safe to say I don't agree. how is Zidane better than Nedved ? :) Guiding his team (much worse) to two...
  10. mnementh

    Pele, Maradona and..Zidane?

    The club/CL are ok, but not that great. It's obvious he was dependent on great stars, IMO bigger stars, to succeed, like Del Piero , which is why in 1999 Juve sucked. He didn't step up to 3 consecutive european finals. He was really a "loser" before that final in france, a tournament during...