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No problem. I'm happy to get an answer from anyone I respect here. The debate seems to have slipped out of my hands here, and petered out, so I think I'll leave this one for now.

Even when, having intellectually rejected it, you still believe? Thanks. It didn't occur to me because we treat all nouns equally in English. Bloody Women's Lib ;) You misunderstand me. It's not the transcription I don't believe, it's the divine contact in the first place. I don't believe...

That's how probably 99% of religious beliefs are formed. What does that tell you about the validity of your religion? Nothing. My parents' political beliefs aren't the same as mine, but I don't think that makes the parties they follow any better. I remember hearing a friend of the family...

We don't ignore it - I certainly don't. I'm not in any position to defend the Catholic Church, nor am I interested in doing so. Yes, the book Christian theology is based on is written in language that was somewhere between vague and outright misleading to begin with, and is now so old and has...

Ah now, where does Christ say that He's God? It's implied so many times. To the point where He seems painfully modest. :) "I know, but I am talking about the vested interests of Christianity,who are hell bent to deify Christ, by using capital letters here and small letters there, to deceive...

Me? Why does everyone pick on me. I'm a theistic engineer. I not only sit on the fence, but I built it too. And I've enough reading material as it is, thank you. :P

It really is just a matter of translation. One of the basic Christian (and indeed Jewish) commandments is "Thou shalt not kill". I don't know if you even know what "thou" or "shalt" means - it's Middle English, and has no place in a modern book (they mean "you" and "will" respectively), but...

You're talking to computer nerds. Naturally lazy, dislikes sunlight... anything familiar here? :) Thanks though. I'm glad it has some basis in fact. Too many religous traditions don't.

Yes. Or indeed IMHO.

Really? It's one of the most common.

As Far As I Know. :)

I think the Jews eschew Pork too, or am I wrong? If so, I imagine it's something that the RCC dropped over the centuries. We abstain from meat on Good Friday, and AFAIK, Catholics (or maybe just Irish Catholics) used to apply that to every Friday. Part of the self-flagilation we're so good...

Alcohol I'll back you to the hilt on, but pork? How's that harmful to anyone except pigs?