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  1. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Ronn is Iranian. The "death to" chants started during the Islamic revolution (death to Shah), and is now really symbolic and used mostly by the regime's supporters as they think they are still revolting against the enemy. They even use it every now and then for the leaders of the green movement...
  2. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Did you see this: :rofl:
  3. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    The Palestinian cause was never an important one to the middle class Iranians. "Death to Palestine" is a new low, but there have been similar chants in the past with more or less the same message for the regime: don't give "our" money to "them". It has become much worse in the past couple of...
  4. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    https://www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-right-wing-extremists-protest-west-bank-arson-murder-trial-1.6196907 Anywhere else in the world this mob would have gotten leveled and removed. Seems the more invested in religion people are the more likely they are to unlearn the only worthy...
  5. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Was he as intelligent as you are?
  6. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    It's great that you know the names of a few fallacies so you can throw them here and there and feel smart.
  7. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I have no idea what you are talking about.
  8. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I did read what you said and you did sympathize with what Orgut said. Despite your attempts to sound rational in this debate, what I have figured is that you indeed approve of the shit that your government does and no matter how much you try to twist it, dead people (those murdered by your...
  9. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    What you say in this post is COMPLETELY different from what you said in the original post though.
  10. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    How is that understandable? If anything, those who were wronged should be the last ones who would commit a similar wrong to a people who were not those who wronged them in the first place (hence there's no possibility of revenge). How is what he said in any way understandable?
  11. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I was describing what a person with a lack of morals (in my opinion of course) would subscribe to. You thought those were my opinions and liked my post. Judging by your other posts in the last few pages, there's nothing in my post for you to like. It would have been much better if you had just...
  12. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    The summary of my post was that Israeli government is committing crimes.
  13. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    You don't see them as adults who have the capacity to choose for themselves. If you did, you wouldn't be able to separate them from Hamas. I understand why one would want to make that distinction though. Nobody buys calling a people a bunch of savage bloodthristy terrorists, so it's easier to...
  14. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    But that was the point, you can't call it a human tragedy if you think Hamas/people were responsible for it (don't separate Hamas from the people, people who came to the protests knew the consequences of their actions no less than did Hamas). But think about it - what's there to milk? What...
  15. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    How is that or their intentions relevant to what happened? People (except children) who came to the protests knew the consequences of their actions as much as Hamas did. So you either refuse to see it as a human tragedy because those people got what they were asking for, or you see it as what it...
  16. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Hamas did what?
  17. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    And what in the world have they been able to buy with such worthless currency? What goals have they achieved? Who gives a shit about that currency? From using children as human shields to capitalizing on dead Palestinians, Israel has used each and every disgusting means to shift the blame onto...
  18. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    It's not only the US though. Imagine if the Turkish government had done that to the protesters and the backlash that would have followed ;) To say that oh do you expect the US or Europe to say something or the UN to do something about Israel atrocities is absurd, because yes I do expect that and...
  19. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    https://twitter.com/statedeptspox/status/979867831176134657 "Those involved"? No mention or condemnation of who killed those lives.
  20. king Ale

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Old but awesome.