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Still no Shakhtar-Juve thread; we taking one game at a time or something?

That's because of the number of times Barcelona and Man Utd have played the CL final in recent years. You can see that Serie was top in the 90s that coincides with that from 92 to 98 the CL final had an Italian team every year. Between 2005-12 barring 2010, the CL final had at-least one English...

That's like saying winning a league with 18 teams isn't as impressive as winning one with 20 teams.

Shakhtar wants to be a big team, so I think they will be motivated to beat Juve anyway; seeing how Luis Adriano scored that goal on Tuesday and then Donetsk refused Nords from scoring shows how obsessed they are about winning, and it's not like they have to save energy or rest players for the...

Lichsteiner ran the show on his wing, I thought Cole would shut him out, and Vucinic :heart: I don't know what "%" he was at, I guess not at his best since he should have scored, but his link up play is the sex. Standard performance from everybody, feels good to finally be able to see Juve beat...

3 attacking midfielders instead on 3 strikers for Inter. I think Oscar and Mata will alternate on Pirlo, Hazard on Bonucci, Mikel on Vidal and Ramires on Marchisio. We will have to play an intense match and hope for some magic from Vucinic or Pirlo, I don't think Marchisio and Vidal will get...

5-3-1-1 I think, a very good counter imo, bit like what Stamaccioni did.

5 defenders for Chelsea :sergio: I am a lot less confident now than if they were playing their usual 4-3-3.

:sergio: Even if we 'rape' Chelsea, we would still need a result against Shakhtar. We need a victory for survival, it most certainly won't be about any triumph.