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Well then, if we're not judging them by their performances in Europe, that obviously puts them outside the "Top 10 World Club Teams" then, doesn't it? I'm glad we can come to an agreement :) Go Arsenal for the FA Cup! :thumb:

Fair enough, it was a good achievement, but when you look at how they performed in Europe, it makes the record much less impressive. If they succeeded in Europe and at least made it to the semi-finals or something, then I'd acknowledge that they were something special. When their non-EPL...

:confused: I don't really see how you can say that Juve's defence is "solidish", then claim that Barca is "complete". So "everyone" means Wolves, Leeds and Leicester? All Arsenal proved last season with their ridiculous 49 games unbeaten run was that they can dominate in England, but just...