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Carlton don't really need to go all out for a big forward. You need one more class midfielder and you will run over the top of anyone. Trade Gibbs for someone that can ball it in the engine room.

Now, now, don't start crying like your coach. Umps gave you a headstart.

Eagles fans at Subi are strange. All quiet. Goal they roar. Free kick boo. And not much in between. But anyway we have a slight chance if Collingwood lose their ruck for finals. Naitanui and Cox showtime.