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quelle surprise . I didn't said Jews. Evidently there were attempts on Israeli lives and according to Israeli sources there may be more cells active. Does is sounds like a safe holiday destination for me at the moment? Sorry if you feel offended by a little dramatic flair in my post, wasn't my...

How so?

The nose And being loud But seriously they probably had some people working in hotels feeding them info on Israeli guests. Also some women who was flown back here said her taxi driver was very suspicious, offered to wait for her outside her hotel, for free, if she needed a ride later, asked...

You can google it. Anyway https://www.iranintl.com/en/202206236464 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/23/turkey-foiled-iranian-plot-to-kill-israelis-in-istanbul-fm

Nice. Turkey is an amazing holiday destination for sure. Thought about going back this summer as well but apparently Iranian death squads are hunting Israelis over there at the moment.

Random numbers and artificial truths lol. I was actually specifically referring to the Mongol invasion of the middle east, that (did) happen 800 years ago give or take. The total destruction of the Islamic empire and the end of Islam's "golden age". Arabs remined subdued, subjugated and...

True. Although this mindset in combination with grand ambitions, as you mentioned, is the Unfortunate part. Baghdad was the center of human enlightenment and science for 500 years and it wasn't solely Persian. But to an extant you are right, the drivers were never from the peninsula.

Your post shows perfectly the "us vs them" and the "we will wait them out" mentality prelevant in the muslim/ arab world. Those two are the sole reason most of you pepole have contributed next to nothing to humanity for almost 800 years now.

Good, Turks are not being kept silent any longer lol

Good news indeed, too bad logic is extinct outside the major cities. Erdogan asked for a re-run of the election cause "fraud" and lost by even a bigger margin.

I think having a "father of the nation" type figure is deeply rooted in Arabic culture/mentality. Not living under one sadly makes it easier to support the idea as the consequences of it don't apply to you. It's actually been holding Arab countries back more than the religion itself imo. It...

The exact same thing happened with the turkish referendum a year back. The rejection of democratic values while enjoying life under them is mind boggling cynical.

The number is from people who identify themselves as kurdish, this is what relevant to a discussion about being an oppressed minority. Those are the people we are talking about, as I said it's not one homogenous group and I'm sure a lot of people of Kurdish ethnicity consider themselves Turkish...

What? you don't make any sense The numbers are the numbers, where they live has no meaning. 64% of total Kurdish votes are still 64% You must be confused then looking at the image I added, understandable really so let me try again. The image purpose was to show that beyond and regardless of the...

I can only assume you are being fed this information by your government (since you have almost no free press left by now) but this statement is utterly false. APK got only 28% of the kurdish vote in the last election while the HDP got more than double with 64%. those numbers are even more...

150,000 people lost their jobs without trial and he still hasn't gotten the memo

First of all why does it matter who oppressed them if they are still being oppressed, you don't even deny they are oppressed by your country which was my point how ludicrous was your statement. Second I'm dying to hear who Kemalists are "my" people, must be a very interesting alternative history...

:shifty: Kurds? such a poor choice of words

Fair enough :lol:

:lol: Fresh you just deleted the best part of your post