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I guess when your club never wins (Roma) you really need to hold on to something. Romanistas will be talking of the 4-0 over Juve and the Doping trial for the next eight hundred years, which will probably be when Roma wins its 4th Scudetto.

Trials in Italy never end. The appeals can go on for ever, as the system is too complex for any legal mind to full grasp.

Libero, if I am correct, Dr. Agricola has already been sentenced - 22 months suspended sentence. It is appeal of this conviction that is left, and yes, I do think that is a very important piece to this trial.

OK, so the only remaining item in the six year Juve trial is the appeal of Dr. Agricola, correct? Does anybody have a guess as to how long the next level of the appeal process will take? Have any dates been set?

If people decide to NOT read Libero's post, then why do those same people respond to him. The accusations simply are contrary to what the man has posted. Too lazy to read a long post? Go take a nap. I have spoken.:D

What? Since it's already in my hand, why not offer?

Well, if i'm ever asked for a urine or blood sample for doping control, I will simply decline and offer a semen sample instead.:D

1. I will leave it to the courts to decide if Berlusca is a crook, but I personally admire his business acumen and hope he was an honest dealer. 2. Between 1994 and 1998 not one single Juventus player ever failed a random drug test. 3. Camoranesi at one time played with a shaved head and...

Quote the man and he appears!!!!

Since everyone is quoting other sources, I will quote Italy's finest export, Libero: "In Italy we don't punish our criminals, we elect them." Thanks Libero.

To accomplish everything Berlusca has in his professional life, I am sure he has had to enter into contracts and deals with Mafia-run businesses. But, this alone does not make Berlusca a crook. Having to deal with mafia is a fact of life in Italy's South, and many times you don't even know you...

Libero, you are one of my main sources. Some of the others have left the forum or hardly ever post. I certainly don't blame you for growing tired of the childish insults, I am embarrassed just reading them.

Can we please try to keep this thread on point, as it is the only source I have on the Juve trial. I live in a land where Italian football hardly gets a mention in the media :down:, so I rely on this forum for the trial updates. We have enough slagging contests in other threads anyway.

Well stated, my friend.

Libero, I don't mean to imply that Collina is yours, personally. But, I was at that game and Collina awarded that non-existant penalty in Milan's favor right in front of my seat. Without doubt, that was the worst call I have ever seen against Juventus (and Collina has made several).

Libero, our Milanista friend, the long-serving Juventus President Vittorio Chiusano passed away in the summer of 2003, only a couple days prior to Juve defeating your beloved Milan and your referee Collina in the Supercoppa Italiana, in New York. Shortly thereafter, Juventus appointed Avv...

Err, probably every Juventus fan.

Screw those Dilberts! Do not derail this thread, or I'll throw a bag of urine at you. How is it that the sporting authorities have blood samples of Juventus players? Back in the 1990's, I thought all post-match doping tests consisted only of urine samples.

What confuses me is the fact that the "trial" (it really is not a trial, but an inquest) has been going on for something like 6 years, but EPO was only mentioned 2 weeks ago for the first time. Is the prosecution that unorganized, or are they grasping at straws? When does Juve get to present...