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Glad we got that straightened out :D

... pro patria mori. And I disagree.

"Scipio's helmet" after Cornelius Scipio, Roman general who defeated Hannibal of Carthage. "Coorte" translates as "Legions", as I recall. Aahh The Hague University's Italian Language and Culture course :smoke:

I dunno... I've lived among Neapolitans... I wouldn't rule it out :D

Regional pride, then. Whichever. Point is that a sense of pride tied to wherever the person is from is sincerely present in Italy compared to surrounding nations. Wouldn't be the first time some bloke walks up to me in a club in Italy and goes: "Don't you wanna have sex with me? I'm...

Europe has seen what national pride can lead to. World Wars, nazism, discrimination, holocausts, genocide, massacres, empires, occupation, suppression, destruction, lost generations, depletion... We are taught all the above in school, we are reminded of it through monuments, it has sunk in...

I realise that. But here's something important: See, that's a very Northern European thing to say. You won't hear that attitude quite as much when you go to other places. I'm not saying we despise our anthems, but we don't think it's something that should be sung and respected at all times...

All of what you said requires living in a country with a strong sense of national pride. Most of Western Europe (I said Western, doesn't include Italy) doesn't have those sentiments anymore. Definitely not the Germanic and Nordic countries. People in Germany and the Netherlands never even hear...

What a pleasure it is to be Dutch. We've had parliamentary debates on whether we really need an anthem in these modern times anymore. Clearly it didn't amount to much and is barely worth mentioning but it does examplify how important the anthem is over here... As for the Italian national...