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Damn..is there anyone here that is just as much in love with the concept of the "fallen prince" as I am? I really love fallen princes :D. Though they are useless in a way.

Yes, of course his behaviour in that press conference was more disgusting than everything Totti has ever done. But I was talking about their acts on the football field. And let's not even talk about who's the most disgusting player we've seen.

Playing bad disgusts you more than spitting?

It depends on the paper I've noticed. La Gazzetta Dello Sport seems to have a soft spot for Del Piero whereas Corriere Dello Sport seems to hate him. Perhaps it has to do with their location, but it's quite obvious. Not even Vieri should get blamed the most, it's all Totti IMO. If you can't...

Del Piero would shine in the EPL..

The criticism Del Piero gets is out of proportion. Remember that we didn't even expect Del Piero to be good in the Euro's, no our main hope, our star, the man who would lead us to glory was Francesco Totti. Instead Del Piero gets even more blamed than Totti and gets criticised all the time. We...

That might be, but there are a lot of kids that practically live on the street that wear his jersey as well. Do they all care for his attitude? Del Piero should have fans solely for his attitude, true, but it's hard to imagine most of his fans are fan of him because of that.

Hmm..you're right about the fact it shows that he's not able to prove his ability anymore, but he was right to criticise. They don't act the same towards Del Piero as to any other player on the peninsula.

Thanks, I just believe that's the current situation with Del Piero.

I don't compare his career as a whole with Maradona and certainly Maradona was the better player, but the important thing is that Del Piero seemed to be the next Maradona at the time. He never reached the level he should have, that's true. And I'm not an Italian, so I wouldn't really know Del...

Btw, Zizou, if Del Piero isn't that in your eyes, you're of course absolutely right not to think he's a hero.

I don't think you can look at the Del Piero prior to 98 and say he wasn't world class. He really was world class and for example a lot better than Zidane. In comparison to the football players around him he seemed to come from a different planet. Del Piero was a lot like Maradona, people...

Why do we talk so much about Del Piero? Because we hate him and we all think he's shit? Well, why the hell aren't we constantly talking about Salas then? Why isn't one thread out of two dedicated to Salas? No, we all love Del Piero but some of us are angry with him because he chokes a lot...

I know, but that's not what I asked for when I started this thread. The question was "Is it because Del Piero is a hero that he's a choker as well?", not "is Del Piero still of any use for Juventus?"

We've gone over that discussion over and over again yes ;). But that's not what my thread is about.

Indeed. In fact it's one of the biggest sport tragedies I've ever seen. Honestly, Godot won't arrive. But we sure hope so.

It's all true, he isn't good enough. And I always tell myself not to expect anything of Del Piero. Like in Euro 2004, I kept telling myself Del Piero wouldn't be good, yet when he touched the ball I suddenly hoped he could show his former glory.

Let's be honest, you don't talk that much about people you really hate. You don't constantly say "I hate Del Piero" when you really hate him. No, you adore him, but you're mad because he always seems to screw up.

Perhaps, but fact remains: in games like the one against Real we need Alessandro Del Piero, because Del Piero is our star, our hero. Not Nedved, not Zambrotta, not Buffon, but DEL PIERO. And then he chokes in the final. But in the semis he's great. And though he chokes and some of us pretend...

That might be, but with Miccoli we wouldn't have been in the final.