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And when you're being ironic, one of your goals is to be funny. And they don't make bad saves like Sorensen did.

But...:confused: that's not even funny?

Would be funny if they had to take penalties against Portugal as well and lose.

I'm extremely glad Mjellberg missed. He was the one laughing with Italy.

I still do. It never came up to me that Sweden would win the tournament. I believe Portugal will get to win, with some disallowed goals on their way to it. But hey, I'm a Portugal fan, so it's fine with me when referees deliberately screw up in their favour. Though it would be great to see...

IMO Holland had all the advantages in the penalty shoot-out. Isaksson had a weak game, no one expected Holland to do it on penalties and the only player that had already experienced losing in a shoot-out was Cocu, who missed :D. Of course van der Sar has experienced it too, but I mean the ones...

I meant they didn't deserve it more than Sweden did.

Anyway, Holland didn't really deserve to go through. Considering the chances Sweden got in extra time. Nonetheless I'm happy Holland went through. But it's a pity Wilhelmsson couldn't show anything in this tournament.

But I guess I'd better shut up considering everyone is (unjustly:D) questioning my football knowledge. Though I would appreciate it if you would try to see things my way. You know, there is a possibility I am right.

And Ibrahimovic is quite limited I think. I don't know whether he could get the time he needs for his tricks in the Serie A.

It's not so much of a problem when he's playing good. But when he plays like today all you see him do is pulling and pushing and using his arms, so he really makes a bad impact. But when he's playing good there's much less of a problem and he doesn't seem to resolve to that sort of behaviour either.

Perhaps, but he definitely isn't Juve material.

Ah come on, you aren't going to deny Ibrahimovic is a dirty football player are you?

Yep, that's the one I was talking about as well. It's a good thing he's there, but he still punched the ball in his own goal. You should watch a rerun of that moment. He really didn't punch it away cleanly.

Ibrahimovic sometimes is a pretty mediocre football player. Being slow, making dirty fouls and using his hands way too much.

Now that really was a very weak save. He didn't punch it away, it was still going in. Luckily Mjellberg could kick it away. No, sorry, he should have done better. The fact he's there is one thing, but really saving it is another.

Actually Sörensen fixed it :D. Did you guys really think Isaksson was a strong goalie? Those 2 shots he so brilliantly misgrabbed..

Isaksson was the worst goalkeeper of the tournament and you wish we had kept him?

Van Nistelrooy was the worst Holland player, besides Van der Meyde of course.

I knew Ibrahimovic and Cocu were going to miss, that was quite obvious. But I expected Robben to miss too. Ibrahimovic looked way too confident and actually a bit arrogant as well. I have to say I'm glad he missed. Still, it's a pity Holland's trauma is gone. Not that I hate Holland, just...