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  1. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    Is he though? I get the feeling he's slacking off.
  2. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    I have tried to slowly remove myself from this debate if it comes up. I will just stay quiet or talk about something else. It's boring and I find it nonsensical. But rather than pointing this out I have noticed simply ignoring the debate altogether works much better.
  3. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    It is and it isn't advanced. How many players who still play in Brazil or Argentina even make their national teams? The vast majority plays in Europe. That in itself says a lot. And then there's only Uruguay that has some real pedigree apart from those two. I mean I like Colombia and Chile, but...
  4. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    I could not be happier with a South American win. European teams are not only tactically very restrained (Argentina are too imo), but are controlled in terms of emotions as well. It's all so professional and focussed on getting the result. I know people might joke about Di Maria's crying, but I...
  5. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    All of that might be true, but: - Argentina did play the best football of any team in the tournament and they actually have the stats to back it up; - France was awarded a rather soft penalty in extra time to make it 3-3. It's true that Argentina were lucky along the road and I felt Messi in...
  6. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    The thing is I do think this can be a legitimate struggle. I am not an expert on homosexuality or on transgender issues. But regardless of how anyone might feel about their proposed answers to certain difficulties, I am sure we can all agree that it is simply easier to be heterosexual and...
  7. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    Did I miss something or did Mbappe score three goals?
  8. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    Even if Qatar killed gays, they didn't kill them because of the World Cup. Sure, lgbtq+ rights matter. Women rights matter too. People who are disabled should have rights as well. But those were not the fights we should have had. Here a legitimate debate about the rights of migrant workers was...
  9. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    Yes, they banned people waving a flag. People who flew there knowing that the state of Qatar would not allow them to express their sexuality or their support for the LGBTQ+ movement, but chose to go there anyway so they could bitch about it. This is not on the same level as migrant workers...
  10. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    Agreed. It's also ridiculously egocentric. It tells me that they don't care about human rights at all. They just care about the specific rights that are relevant to them. Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONEPLUS A6003 met Tapatalk
  11. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    That's actually a very good point and I agree. Apart from their obvious grinta, there's also something very controlled about the way every player thinks about defending first and getting the ball to Messi. It's similar in how Italian teams tend to line up in very strong tactical schemes, but...
  12. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    No, you can't do both. There is a time and place to have certain debates. Qatar should never have been about LGBTQ+ rights. Those rights are only guaranteed in a very small part of the world with a very specific cultural background. Do I believe in those rights? Yes. Do I think this is the...
  13. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    I think the way they used this World Cup to highlight LGBTQ+ struggles is absolutely disgusting. Truly despicable. The death toll of migrant workers is in the thousands. I don't even want to know how many have suffered debilitating injuries. There has been tremendous suffering because of all...
  14. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    Hate is usually a strong word for anything football related, but I truly hated Barcelona when they dominated. It didn't even have to do with their playing style (which I was not a fan of), but the incredible hypocrisy of that organisation. They wanted to play without a shirt sponsor, because it...
  15. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    Even if you were right (you're not), wouldn't the facts demonstrate that Scaloni was right in not benching Messi for the knock outs? I mean, what exactly is your point? That a worse coach would have excluded him and that Argentina wouldn't have won the World Cup in that case?
  16. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    Of course it's subjective.
  17. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    The order is indeed easy to agree on. I think the biggest game in international football is probably Italy - Brazil though. Obviously there have been huge games between Italy and Germany or Germany and Brazil, but Italy - Brazil has had the most memorable games. 1970, 1982, 1994... They also...
  18. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    I'm glad for Dybala. There. I said it. Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONEPLUS A6003 met Tapatalk
  19. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    You can say a lot about the refs. But the mental resiliency of Argentina is out of this world. I have never seen anything like it. And, maybe I disagree with some things, but I can only respect that. Congratulations, Argentina. Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONEPLUS A6003 met Tapatalk
  20. Seven

    World Cup 2022 LIVE thread

    For people saying it's a penalty: can you say with full confidence France would have gotten it? I don't think so. And that tells us all we need to know. Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONEPLUS A6003 met Tapatalk