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I could say the same thing about you man. It means we do not agree. I 'understand' your points, but I do not agree. But now I see that not agreeing with you makes me stupid, according to you.

Nah, you got nothing else to say so you revert to insults. Pathetic. Mr. Could've, should've. would've. We understand what each of us is saying, we just do not agree. There's a difference. and yes, don't bother me anymore..

They are effects. Direct or indirect does not matter to me. Calciopoli was the main reason for the whole mess we've been/still going through. If you don't want to admit to that, it's up to you I don't give a shit. Blame it on Secco or your grandma. inter and Calcioploi are the reason we are...

Yeah I've read that article before. That's not my point. My point is that Calciopli was indeed the reason that our good management left forcefully and caused all of this mess. You're saying with the other guy that calcioploi had nothing to do with it. Come on!

You just proved my point there. If the old management was still in charge, then there would not have been any "bad spending". It's all a chain of 'delayed' effects because of calciopoli. Serie B and 3rd place aren't exactly what Juve used to aim for before this happened. and like I said in...

I'm talking about proving that inter were as much involved in Calciopoli as we and the other punished teams did. Them being punished too, proves it. Us winning a title does not.

No it won't. Middle of the table is not exactly Serie B, is it?

If you can't see the benefit of inter being relegated, then I can't really explain it to you. And yes, of course, it's a matter of opinion.

So you are sure he would have gone to Milan?

And why do you think we did bad on the market? because we're fuckin' broke! And why is that? oh yes, Calciopoli. We had a great management before Calciopli, they were forced to leave after it. How on earth is that "not relevant"?

Our money won't be back yes. But if inter gets relegated this will definitely improve our image and prove to the world what kind of hypocrite lying scum they are. inter were the only 'big' team that was not affected by Calciopli, so them being relegated means so much.

Moggi would never retire, this guy lives for football. And you can't really be sure about what might have happened if Deschamps stayed. We were still strong when we first came back from B because we still had some remaining great players in good form. I think that even if Deschamps stayed...

And us finishing 7th for 2 seasons in a row and losing millions of dollars (directly because of Calciopli) and having to sell many great players is part of that "recovery"? also and our reputation was hugely damaged and you can't deny that. If it weren't for Calciopoli, then we would most...

I think he can speak for himself. No hard feelings.

Ashamed is not the word here. We are angry at what happened and I believe we don't deserve all the humiliation and the damage it done to our reputation. If you believe none of that has happened, then you live in denial and you're trying just to forget about it. If you're willing to forget about...

What's me being irrational or not got to do with the fact that you're unable to comprehend that some of the fans want to see inter relegated first, then a title is next in priority. I try to explain the view of those fans but you just don't get it. You don't have to agree you know.. But no, you...

When you don't get it, then you just don't get it. It's like talking to a fuckin' wall here.

I care about Juve more than any player. Even Alex.

I wanna see justice served FIRST, then I wanna see Juve win a title. Is that clear for you now? and btw, you don't have the right to label those who want inter relegated more than winning a title as "losers", it's a matter of choice. See, I didn't call you a "quitter" or a "glory hunter"...

Losers because we want justice? and you're forgetting one important fact, inter are not just rivals, they are the fuckin enemy who caused all of our misery for 5+ years now. It's because of them why we're even having this poll, instead of just playing to win like we used to. A Scudetto...