Came across an interview with Rubinho (whoever cares :D)
https://www.ilposticipo.it/interviste/rubinho-lintermediario-da-scudetto-laddio-di-conte-alla-juve-ci-ha-scioccato-ho-visto-campioni-piangere-dopo-la-finale-di-champions-a-berlino-amo-la-boxe-tyson-il-mio-idolo/