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  1. Lo-Pan

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    The way turks treat women, the turks I have met and known, is appalling...but turkey is a strange place to focus on, or at least, an interesting place, as its the border of the crossover between Islamic and European states. I know little of the laws there, but the Turks have a reputation for...
  2. Lo-Pan

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    lack of education is a Reason, not an excuse...nort does it prove that this is nothing to do with religion. but you said you agreed, so I need not attempt to create more conflict, Ahmed, and will thank you, for seeing my point of view reasonably...
  3. Lo-Pan

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    Your 'share' is HUGE when compared to Western secular societies, Ahmed. And yes, 'viciously' is putting it wrongly mildly. and if you do not find: "Women are considered the property of the males in their family irrespective of their class, ethnic, or religious group. The owner of the property...
  4. Lo-Pan

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    it wasn't a sweeping generalisation, on my part, or Salman's part...just a locking of horns over the inability to accept that regardless of the level of misinterpretation, if woman are being viciously maltreated, by men who justify their actions through Islam, then religion is a massive part of...
  5. Lo-Pan

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    I am not an islamophobic. I just hate scum. whatever their relgious justification for their evil... I understand everything you wrote, and agree, to a degree...but its ridiculous to suggest that a muslim who causes evil because HIS interpretation of Islam is fucked up, has nothing to do with...
  6. Lo-Pan

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    that makes no sense whatsoever... if a father says: 'if you date a non muslim man, you will be disowned by your family' then its hugely to do with religion. You can argue, rightfully, that that would be the father's misinterpretation of religion, but blatantly...its a religious issue. "In...
  7. Lo-Pan

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    None, thankfully...but I read enough stories, from amnesty international, and other organizations which highlight the plight of the suffering globally, to have at least a small idea of how not just customs, but laws, are horrifically vicious to women, and very mild to men.
  8. Lo-Pan

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    What bother me most about muslims, is the manner in which they have a habit of demanding of their children an acceptance and adherence to rules and customs which make them horridly, palpably restrained, when compared to the non muslims around them. Religion bothers me in general, other than...