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Out for another 2-3 months, needs knee surgery.

Imagine playing two years thinking you were coming to Juve and ending up at Milan.

Anybody on 24 hour surveillance yet?

We also rejected a bid of €45m from Grimsby Town.

He's not bad at all, in fact he has been good in more games than lot. I just wonder whether he has enough character to be a real leader here. Technically he's very sound at everything, just a bit..."vanilla".

Caldara has that bit of bastard about him. I'm not sure Rugani will ever have that, he's too nice.

From next season Caldara will start as the fourth defender and has to earn his spot, it's always the same for new recruits. As for Rugani he will be the third defender barring some sway in form between he and Benatia, but if he has a string of games and shows continual improvement than yes that...

Interesting to see him up against Obama and Dortmund.

I thought he was crap last night, trying far too hard :D

He hasn't been this season when he has played. People make comments like coaches are crazy but they see the players all week and their level and condition. Fans judge it by the best level of a player and assume that is what they will get once they step on the field. In Rugani's case you can add...

Gasp just tried something different for this game, bringing in Palomino. Kurtic also hit the bench. It is the EL, it's not the #1 priority for Serie A teams, even if Atalanta are treating it with the kind of respect you'd expect from a team who slugged hard to get into it. Having a lot of young...

More stand up defenders these days. I've noticed he tends to position himself to intercept the ball more than going into tackles. Rugani is often the same.

Getting compared to Scirea because he scores a couple of goals :D Imagine another legendary 12+ years defender for €20m, would be almost unfair.

We only paid €15.5m for Bonucci though, don't let Croniospeak become reality. - - - Updated - - - He's also ignoring that these are domestic players, a premium for leading teams in any league.

Obviously. That's why we paid €90m for Higuain aged 29. You're just repeating lines from a few years ago because you ended up badly wrong about Bonucci. I'd wish you better luck for next time, but that would be to the detriment of Juventus.

Fine timing as usual, Cron, considering that Inter signed Gagliardini from Atalanta for a similar kind of fee with bonuses an entire day before we signed Caldara. The difference with them is that they need players now - we're good and stacked in that position, Inter are not good and need Italians.

€15m base fee, €6m Juve bonuses, €4m Atalanta bonuses.

That €4m for Atalanta's achievement is a bit of future proofing from them, say they were to make the EL his value inevitably goes up. Still, the free loan kind of balances against that. Seems to me another bit of creative accounting. Consider that we paid the same base fee for Bonucci some 6...