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People are upset by two things - the deaths and the subsequent cover up. I've said my bit already on the surrounding circumstances, but those are all innocent people who died, and the police covered several things up.

What point are you making? I think those headlines have been discredited by now, at least on the whole. 'Some' doesn't really cover it, even if they are debatable events at best.

There are a few things about Hillsborough which irk me. The idea that many fans were not drunk is something I'll never believe, and it doesn't align with what followed. That was part and parcel of the match day experience in the 80s. My old man can't remember watching many matches during that...

If I see him around I'll high five him for you.