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Truly, that is a point that I was going to bring up. We only seem to speak about the actions of a minority on both sides. Only a minority of Israelis really want to kill and harass Palestine, and only a minority of Palestinians want to destroy Israel. But, what really cooks my muffins, is...

I think that "Rich White American", would be even more accurate...

Indeed, please say the US. If talking about the cultural and economic war that the US is waging world wide, then that's something. What you said was spot on, but it's far worse.

Actually, I agree, for the most part. There are many countries which are not pawns of the United States. Unfortunately, they don't have the power to change the situation. IF that's what this thread was about, then we are in agreement: The doublestandard applied by International Bodies and...

Probably because Palestinians are Muslim Arabs. That doesn't make it right, but you asked. They can live without giving Palestinians any land. The fact that they've offered it, is therefore a compromise. Palestine responds by electing a government with the stated goal of the destruction...

But, each of those 8 million people has to decide for themselves what to do about it. Deciding to blow up some cafe's is pretty fucked up. No doubt, european conquest was a ridiculous genocide. I'm not arguing it wasn't or that it was jsutified. You find me, and I'll let you live in my...

Personally, I don't feel that war justifies killing, but I do realise that a lot of people do. I was simply making the case for them as well.

The land doesn't belong to you anymore, if you let someone take it.

Actually, it does. The Palestinians have no right to kill anyone. Murder can not be justified. This is not a war, it's a terror campaign.

I don't need to imagine how a palestinian feels about this. I've had worse things than land theft happen to me and I don't go around blowing shit up. Besides, look at the Aboriginies in Australia, or Native Americans. Europeans came in and took their land, do you see them blowing up buses...

Fine. Israel are a bunch of terrorists, but you are fine with terrorism, so what's the problem if the jews are just that much better at it? The Vietnamese and South Africans do not act like the Palestinians. There are serious differences. Right or wrong, Israel could have all the land...

I know about the creation of Israel. I just wasn't aware that the Jews conquered the country by blowing up all the cafe's, nightclubs, and buses... Just because culture and religion exist independent of the situation does not mean that they have no bearing. Are you honestly trying to say...

I have said repeatedly that killing in general is wrong. I have said repeatedly that the Israelis are wrong, just as are the Palestinians. The issue arises that I feel that the circle of violence is driven mostly by the Palestinians, but also by neighboring arab countries. I believe that the...

There is a clear and definable difference between armed resistance to occupation, and terrorism. Suicide bombing cafe's, buses, and nightclubs; reagrdless of whether there are children there or not, is terrorism. Bombing airfields, ports, power plants, etc. is armed resistance. Objectively...

I don't think that killing people is right or justifiable in anyway, but at least the Israelis had some goal in mind. They killed civilians in the process of forcing out an enemy combatant. Palestinians kill civilians, and for what? What does it accomplish? Nothing substantive. BTW, I'm...

You expect Israel not to fight back? You go to their shops and their restaurants and blow up their people, but you have a problem with killing enemy combatants? Do the suicide bombers give people the chance to surrender?

There was no story and I made nothing up. You ignore all the parts of my argument that you have no legitimate response for and focus on the one thing that you can counter. Who cares if it's a bus full of children or a cafe, or a nightclub, or a restaurant, or a department store. It's all the...

Who said it would be easy? I suppose you think it's easy to plan and execute terrorism? To say that the military and infrastructure of Israel is too hard of a target is pure and simple cowardice. If these men were really in a noble and honourable fight to save their families, then they would...

That's such bullshit and you know it. Suicide bombers aren't defending anyone. There's no defensive action to blowing up a cafe. If he wants to defend his family, he might think about something called guerilla warfare. Try blowing up military and infrastucture targets, rather than cafe's and...

Really? So a republic is a democracy? I wonder why there are two different words then. Republics can be democratic, but they aren't democracies, in the strict sense of the word. Furthermore, get your history straight. The first democracy was a democracy, not a republic. Unless you're...