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And pragmatic solutions are not wasting money as we do now.

I can't answer that - ask a scientist. All I'm saying is the rest of the world won't get out of poverty on green energy.

Not wasting money on green energy that won't change a thing. It's only the rich countries in the west who can spend money on this. What about the developing countries?

R&D on pragmatic solutions.

That's not my point. It's all politics and the fact is that we're wasting money on green energy, which won't change shit, because of the quota system. Money which could've been spent on R&D, but we have politicians who don't want to lose face.

You do know that governments posted a lot of money in green energy, right?

That goes both ways.

The problem in every discussion.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/

You guys should read what Bjørn Lomborg says.

Using local data to prove a point :sergoi: