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Just out of curiosity, what do you guys make of Kai Havertz so far? 1G and 2A in the league for Chelsea and the league is almost over. His transfer fee was in the region of 90M and the more I see him, the more I'm convinced he's a 90M flop. Seems to me like an overpriced Julian Draxler and...

Or perhaps because they have lost VVD and Gomez to season ending injuries and are forced to play with their DM’s or academy players as the CB’s? Playing with Fabinho - Henderson as the CB duo would be similar to us playing Rabiot - Bentancur as our CB's

I doubt players like Mbappe or Neymar want to play in the same zone as the DM :snoop:. Can't see PSG considering him. His recent European records are going out in the last 16th against the mighty RB Leipzig and Sevilla.

Spurs and Mourinho :lol: I wonder what's next for Mou once he gets the sack at Tottenham. Elite clubs stopped considering him a while ago and right now he's even underachieving with Spurs.

Liverpool are also playing with 2 midfielders as the CB duo though, with pretty much all their CB's out for the entire season. Their season is over because of injuries rather than fatigue imo.

Gundogan is such an underrated player, he's got the silky first touches, defense splitting passes and smart movement.

Just noticed that Moyes' West Ham is currently fourth in the table :snoop:

Should Brendan Rodgers get more recognition and be considered an elite manager? When he took over Leicester were awful and closer to relegation than competing for the title. They had also changed managers 4 times post-Ranieri. The infamous 9-0 win against Southampton, the 5th place finish last...

In fairness to him, Chelsea have been a graveyard to managers (and strikers). They have had 7 managers in the last 10 years But after spending +200m on players you'd think they should be higher up the table.

Fraud Lampard :snoop:

Couldn't agree more but most of them were hired because of the dire situation the clubs were in. OLG and Arteta were caretaker managers. Lord Lampard was appointed because Chelsea were banned from the transfer window, had a shit squad and nobody really wanted the Chelsea job.

Define 'real' coaches? At some point we need a transition from household names like Benitez, Allerdyce and Hodgson getting a new job every season. We can't really build on these 60+ years old to be eternal. There are some good mangers coming through with very little experience like Simone...

Well, last year he beat Liverpool in the league, got some pretty good results and tactical outthought Pep in the FA cup final. He played some old school catenaccio last year and banked it on Auba getting the odd goal, which I liked. This year he can't do that anymore and he seems way out of his...

Just read that Arsenal only have 14 points out of 14 matches :lol: The Arteta era is probably a new low for them

Arteta is doing worse than Emery at this point. Another former player turned manager who's actually a fraud. it seems like ZZ's recent success as a manager at RM has made every club believe that a WC midfielder will turn into a great manager over night.

In terms of style he actually looks quite similar to Chiesa with only with better finishing. But Son would fit Italian football very well.

I don't think Heung Min Son gets the recognition he actually deserves but he's probably one of the best finishers I've recently seen when it comes to 1-vs-1's against the keeper. Always remains so calm in front of goal with an ice cold finish. His goal today was another example of that. He's...

I really wonder when there is more consensus about Pep being a fraud.

Pretty much assures City the title too. A Gomez - Matip defence isn't really solid enough to win you the league.

VVD probably has injured his ACL and will be out for several months :sad: