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The two aren't mutually exclusive :P

That is just sad.

No you're completely right and i agree with you. But these people know nothing about their own religion, a lot of them bring their kids with them and make them do this shit. I've seen loads of pics with small kids crying and their dads opening their heads up with knives. Its disgusting.

What Ahmed said above. This isn't even an Islamic practice. It is completely against Islamic teachings. And even if we assumed that it was an Islamic practice, you're right about the protection of the sanctity of childhood, children wouldn't have to partake in this BTW, this is banned...

So very true. Let them kill themselves, less idiots to deal with. The problem is, when they drag kids into it, and believe me, many of them do.

@Ahmed, :lol:

Ya, meaning IZ is a racist himself. :disagree:

When you look at the one billion muslims in the world and you count how many people believe in this shameful idiocy. Then it will probably be the same percentage of white supremacists in Ireland(even going by your estimation). Am i making sense here? :P

Its the same in Ireland, i'm sure you have those type of people. So since you're going to judge me and other muslims on the basis a small misleaded, misguided minority's actions. Then i will judge you on the basis of the small misleaded minority in your country too.

Theres a small minority in the US that call themselves white supremacists, you know the neo nazi's, the kkk etc. If we can derive a peoples culture from a small minority of people, then i think it would be safe to say that racism and supremacist ideals are part of the American Culture.

If something is not explained in the Koran, then its explained in the Sunna, if not then they use analogies, if not then by unanimous opinion of muslim scholars. This practice does not come from any of those 4 sources of legistlation in Islam. Furthermore a minority of misleaded, delusional...

I don't care what you do to yourself as a mature grown up, but as soon as you involve children in such idiocies, thats where i draw the line. Jail is too little for those who drag kids into this bullshit.