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Based on how you've spoken to me recently and how you based an argument on gay marriage around the personal cost to you, which I still don't. If you want to call me arrogant you can, but bear in mind - I do it ironically (Irony - The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally...

talking to Tyrone and Jack not you. I'd value mileage as a damn important factor, given how 'high' (double in europe) petrol prices are and that they will only continue to rise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_automobiles You lot could just read that :shifty: I didn't even realise this was a subject for debate, i've always known it as it is....fact. Don't even know why I am arguing with two people that I used to respect that I have recently found to be...

Generalization goes so far, diplomacy is a representation of country. Thats what he deals with and thats what I have been given an explanation from.

I suppose my Dad working as chief engineer & deputy head of vehicle safety & emissions for the department of transport, NCAPP & charing comitees in the UN & EU counts for shit? Probably does, but to quote him "americans know fucking nothing about cars".

Order in from europe? Our standard is better than your best.