we dont need such good player as Joaquin when Zambo will be back for 3-4 months.. We have all seen what spanish players are doing in Seria A ( Mendieta, Javi Moreno, Jose Mari)
and for Ilhan Mansiz I dont think he is enough good for Seria A.
IMO Camoranesi is great signing. He scored some important goals for Verona last season and he was one of the biggest stars of Verona with Mutu and Oddo.