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How about making this thread essential, after all it does have a heavy affect on our club... But Vialli complained?! For any updates, maybe Eaglesnake could help...

I don't want to lose this one yet, this is IMO very very important thread...

thanks... :thumb: I was about to send an ultimatum... :D

Probably your right, that's how it went... :) But come on mods, make a poll about sport ethics, do you believe in clean football (and Juventus)?!

at least it's not illegal in here... It's quite common actually... I've understand that it's just banned for athletes in some countries... :confused: But illegal, really?! :confused:

But they claimed that we had nandrolon in the document, didn't they (it was the first, "unofficial search")?! I can't remember for sure, it was a week ago... :D Hopefully you can refresh my memory in somepoints Juventino... :) Anyway, this is still bad, really bad, eleven is a high number...

Giraudo is in trial too you know, he even might go to jail... :down: Besides, you really believe that the coaches and the the directors didn't knew anything about 150substances that the Italian anti-doping committee found?! I can't remember how many of those substances we're forbidden though...

anybody care to translate?! And yeah, there's nothing wrong with creatine, I use it too... 2grams per gym day...

but that doesn't change the fact that Juve have done something really wrong... But yes, so have the others and their still not being prosecuted, and you're probably right why...

oh yes, I remember the numbers, and those we're above 50, so it was iron values... Thanks mate... But anyway they suggested that it's a sign of EPO-hormones, didn't they?! It was the beauty against the beast... ;) But that Milan's doctor was absolutely ridicilous: "we haven't used...

yes, it was very interesting, but I just can't remember what it was... Damn... Probably it was creatine values in their blood... Anyway, they talked about how much DP (and Crespo) gained weight (muscles) in just one year... And furthermore, using creatine isn't bad at all, even I use it... But I...

thanks, you found time to post this before me... Anyway, FIFAs explanations about "individual hearings" are just crap, FIFA and Blatter don't want to clear doping out of football, and that's just sad... :down:

well american football definitely isn't clean, and probably the same goes for NHL (ice hockey), they don't even do doping tests... :rolleyes:

btw way fellows, I think it's the time for poll: Do you believe in clean football? And should FIFA accept Wada's rules?!

I saw a document on monday about this, and man, it really was depressing... :down: Dr. Agricola gave medicine all the time to the players, and the players didn't know what it was... They tried to use depression medicines combined to other medicines to boost players blood values etc... Or so it...