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Excellent, I agree with everything here. ummm, got your point but don't agree fully with your suggestion about even stricter laws. Many people go to the games because of that "sense of insanity". Wouldn't it be relishing and even therapeutic for everyone to go to the game and shout something...

I agree with you in some points, but I also disagree strongly in some points. The amount of diffidati is huge, and most certainly many of ultras have got their bans based on very light evidence and action. Many people have been banned for nothing, just because of police's discretion, and now...

OK, I just read that myself. Well I think that you too remember when interisti threw got that Vespa in and decided to throw it... It's nothing new to be honest. On the other hand, the new stricter system is a total flop. Checking IDs etc. is laughable too and too complicated and slow, and...

I thought that she's risking her life right now? Well you turned this straight to ultras, Parks' book has done some nice propaganda there I see. ;) But yes, you're absolutely correct. Chievo's ultras are a laughing stock, you can't really even compare, say, North Side to BGB. They've got a...

...Well, you know what I meant. ;) I wouldn't care even if you were half roman. You're juventina, that's everything that matters. You're civilized. :D :thumb: Read my pm, was the article from the Supertifo any good?

You're weird, I honestly can't understand why anybody likes Chievo. Yes, Hellas' boys may have uncommon political views, but at least they have passion, Chievo doesn't. Not very surprising, terroni, terroni...

Elisa, check my edited post. Don't worry, I'll change it soon...

you're absolutely correct there Elisa, no need to check. But honestly, why on earth Chievo? Everything around them is teflon or plastic, they're just a bunch of phonies. When it comes to Verona, Hellas all the way. Why they are plastic? They don't have any fans and their ultras are a laughing...

you mean Empoli or Chievo? ;) ...if only Cagliari could surprise Milan tonight... e: Why not Hellas then? At least they're not plastic...

Why are you down-hearted? I'd love to see plastic Chievo going back down where they belong. roma :LOL:

Precisely. It's a shame for the whole footballing world. http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=11892&postid=773925#post773925