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If he grew up in Syria, there would be no Apple computers, so the iPhone wouldn't exist. He'd probably just sell fancy candied produce.

Stop this Jobs jibba jabba.

Al Davis is dead. Raiders fans are dancing in the street.

Oh shit.:lol:

Well, capitalism is merely the mechanism. THE MECHANISM, to put it bluntly. There is no non-capitalist economy on earth. Even nations like China and Vietnam operate within the mechanism. Moving to anything other than capitalism is not a option, because such a thing doesn't exist. Once we...

Sure I understand the trouble behind everything you say. I agree that there is a problem from Apple to prescription drugs to the sugar refiner association of America (which is way more destructive to society that techie trinket salesmen). What's the solution Martin? How do we avoid falling...

The simple solution is not to fall in line. Worrying about Apple is not on the top of my To Do list.* *As I type from a MacBook and attempt to network the household printer to my parents' new iMac.:D

To some extent. However all modern commercialism is driven by manipulation whether tobacco companies, oil companies, banks, food companies, agribusiness, Microsofts "I'm a PC" campaign, etc. Everyone does this, some just do it better. In the end it's up to people to be better consumers.

I know that.

If society lines up to get shot in the face, you can't really blame the guy pulling the trigger. He's just giving folks what they want.

It's capitalism bro. Bill Gates did the same shit, he just gives more money to poor people.

Isn't that the whole point?

That's like shooting a load in your own eye.

That's pretty much how I caught the situation.

Well he did name his successor a while ago. So the company should do fine (probably lose a couple points today). I'm surprised so many techie guys don't really pay attention to this sort of thing. Oh and on a completely unrelated note, I think the use of the word fanboys is now right up...