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Germany is officially the most successful European team in international competitions, both in WC, EURO and of course in total. Winning a tournament is gold medal, losing the final is silver, and winning the 3rd place (or losing in semis if there is no 3rd place match) is a bronze. FIFA...

Pedrito, you failed in spelling and geography, now you failed in history. Don't they teach you anything there in Peru?

Barely, again :lol:

What's that, a European from the Balkans who looks like a bear? Yes I am. You barely got it right, Pedro.

I'm still trying to figure out the logic behind giving the golden ball to Messi. I know that Maradona was most probably right when he says that it was for marketing reasons, but I'll still try to find sporting reasons. It's true that no attacking player, at least from the 4 semifinalists, was...

Give the World Cup to Brazil, make them spend billions on stadiums which will never be used again, while half the population is starving Expose Brazil as a jungle Screw the others and start matches at time suitable for the European viewers Give Brazil the worst defeat in their history Beat...

So much can change. If you look at Spain in 2010, you'll see so many important players being so young at the time. Their peak should have happened in 2014, yet they failed miserably.

I count on you boys. I count on you to remember and tell those kids the real story. Jack and I will be too old to bother. We'll pass the torch to you :agree:

The Germans are becoming a nightmare for Argentina. They eliminate them three WCs in a row.

Or to Bin Laden and Netanyahu.

They did face one of the strongest attacks when they played Holland and they hardly gave those guys a half chance.

It's a 50-50, but I'd find a 3:0 for Argentina a shocking result, while a 3:0 for the Germans won't be a surprise. Argentina are yet to chase a result. They proved that they can defend their goal and irritate the opponent. If Germany fails to take a first half lead, then it won't be surprising...

Ok, but I choose to look at it differently. Argentina, for example, went to these 4 world cups with the same expectations as Germany, but very often with better team and were perceived as bigger favs. You remember 2002 when France and Argentina were considered as the only two teams worthy of...

With the exception of 2012, when they were considered strong favorites (50-50 with Spain) for winning the Euro, the Germans were rarely topping the betting coefficients. It was a real shock to see them making the final in 2002. The 2006 team was considered one of the least talented German teams...

The last time Germany played Argentina in the WC was in 2010. Easy 4:0 for the Germans in the quarterfinal.

Yup. And if there is part of the team that disappointed, it's the attack. They don't create enough and they don't score enough as a consequence. Mascherano, Biglia/Gago and the defenders are doing top job and they are the ones who took Argentina to the final.

They are yet to concede in the knockouts. That's surely not terrible. Actually, with the exception of Dzemaili's chance in the 120th minute, teams hardly created a great chance against Argentina in the knockouts. If there is a part of the team that made this final possible, it's the defense and...

In the group stage against Iran, Bosnia and Nigeria. Certainly not in the knockouts.

Why poor? The way they played in the knockouts, a final for Holland would have been one of the most undeserved in the WC history.

When Maradona was destroying the opponents in the quarter and semifinal, Messi was one of the worst on the pitch. This final is on the team, not on Messi.