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In theory, minimum from the season 2014/15. But for that to happen the Germans need to lose almost all their matches next season, while the Italians need to be perfect. In reality, it will take at least 5 years. In those 5 years Italy will have to do better than at least two of Spain, Germany...

If not mentioned already, here's an interesting fact that makes a Juventino proud. After Abramovich bought Chelsea (and until yesterday), they played exactly 106 matches in CL. Not even once did they lose a match by more than 2 goals. Yesterday was the first time. In Abramovich's 107th match in...

This was our first win against an English team in CL in the last 10 years. Our last win before tonight was against New Castle in 2002. After that we drew 4 and lost 6 matches.

The Suns gave Pirlo the highest rating tonight :lol: Cech and Asamoah got an 8.00 too, but how on earth did Pirlo get a higher rating than Chiellini or Vidal, and why did they give Pirlo an 8.00, while they gave Barzagli a 6.00, even if Barza made no mistake at all and practically won every duel.

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Shakhtar have 3 players on 2 yellows. Two defenders and Luiz Adriano. They certainly won't rest players. They have a huge lead in the domestic league and the winter break for them in Ukraine starts 3 days before they face us. I'm sure they'll go for the win, although I can't exclude the...

I think Pirlo was our worst player, by far. Our genius played his worst match in a while. Lots of misplaced passes and he foolishly gave away many balls. He also seemed outrun most of the time. Looked much slower than he actually is. All the others get good ratings from me. Barzagli was my...

Giovinco isn't suspended as far as I know. It was his first yellow in the CL. We'll miss Marchisio, because he got his 3rd yellow. That was an unneeded foul :(

I'm mad at you for lying about Willian :(

It's true :agree: Better h2h with Chelsea. The most Chelsea can have is 10 pts and Shakhtar already have 10 pts. Due to the h2h and since it's impossible for all three teams to have the same number of points, Shakhtar are already qualified.

It's meaningless since head to head is what counts and we have a win+draw vs Chelsea. All Juve needs to qualify is a draw. All Shakhtar needs to win the group (they are already qualified) is a draw. So, the draw is the most expected result on that match, but will it happen? I'll be gready and...

What was that about? At first I thought he wanted to emulate Spain from the EC, since those guys literally raped the Italian NT filled with Juve players. But it definitely didn't work since there is a world of difference in quality between the Spaniards and guys like Obi Mikel and Hazard @Fred

Mamma mia, what a show :delpiero:

Nevermind my post above.

Alex, one lovely sopcast stream for a fellow Juventino, please.